bestest-ish drum software 2022?

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Hey fellas!
So I have EZ drummer 2, and GGD, and I've pretty much just been using GGD exclusively for the last 2 years. I like it a lot, but I'm wondering what the next step up would be if there be one.

Superior drummer 3?
addictive drums?

Looking at sound quality/raw-ish samples more than anything. 🤔

I haven't researched drum software in a while.
 

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I'd be interested in knowing too! I'm mostly using Modern and Massive and OKW Fusion. Kinda thinking about Invasion or trying other stuff.

I have read some folks aren't digging the new EZdrummer quite as much but it sounded like it was more about feature changes than sound quality.
 

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Superior Drummer 3 will you give you the most options for editing the sound. There’s endless expansion packs being released every year.

I got Mixwave Gojira. I liked it at first but Kontakt is a disaster on M1 Macs so I’ve leaned back into Toontrack with blending some of Mixwave pieces over it. It’s very similar to the GGD approach by having ready mixed drums. Interface has a lot of tweaking options and some of the mixed kits have third party samples layered over them which gives more tonal options than the GGD kits.
 

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I've used addictive drums and even have addictive 2 before I tried out GGD and I still go back to it every now and then specifically because I hate how kontankt seems to ruin my drum maps every time but that's probably on me. aside from that I find that if I want softer hits and a little more dynamic range that addictive is better for my needs. i've heard slate is awesome too if you wanna try a few others
 

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yeah i have issues with kontakt cutting off samples which is one of the reasons why I'm looking for the next step. It's just a pain to debug and it's fairly random.
 

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How much better can a new drum vsti be? It really comes down to personal preference. Check out Superior Drummer 3, Steven Slate Drums 5, BFD 3 and see what works best from you. The Abbey Road Drummer series is good, too, but its Kontakt, so if you have issues with running Kontakt on your system, you can avoid this one.
 

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If we could only control humans with midi or piano roll then we could have the best of both worlds. jk.
 

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How much better can a new drum vsti be? It really comes down to personal preference. Check out Superior Drummer 3, Steven Slate Drums 5, BFD 3 and see what works best from you. The Abbey Road Drummer series is good, too, but its Kontakt, so if you have issues with running Kontakt on your system, you can avoid this one.
I suppose better is relative. 🤔

The only thing i don't care for with GGD are the cymbal options ( and them cutting out every now and then thanks to kontakt being kontakt.) The snare/kick choices are fine. Toms good. The interface is good (other than having to deal with kontakt)

I had BFD3 ages ago, but I wasn't a huge fan. That had to be like back in 2014-2015 or so. It doesn't look like it's changed at all here in 2022. I could be wrong though.

I do actually have the abby road series since it came with komplete ultimate, but eeehhhh....not a huge fan. I need an easy way to turn off all processing on the samples, but it's kind of a pain to do unless i'm missing something.


If we could only control humans with midi or piano roll then we could have the best of both worlds. jk.

Just give it time! haha
 

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Just give it time! haha
After the anomaly. heh. That'd be awesome to download midi tracks and hook yourself up to the real kit and it forces your body to play it. After a few moths of workng out and your muscles form, you (and everyone else) would be the best drummer ever. Then apply this tech to guitar. haha. Music would become extinct cause it'd all be as easy as breathing.
 

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Have you checked out Naughty Seal Perfect Drums? You don't get all the bells and whistles that you do with EZD/SD, but what you do get is a wicked sounding set of kits. IMO the drums sound a lot meaner and meatier than any EZX kits i've ever tried. Not to say they are bad by any means, but Perfect Drums fits my style better.
 

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Have you checked out Naughty Seal Perfect Drums? You don't get all the bells and whistles that you do with EZD/SD, but what you do get is a wicked sounding set of kits. IMO the drums sound a lot meaner and meatier than any EZX kits i've ever tried. Not to say they are bad by any means, but Perfect Drums fits my style better.

oh cool! no i haven't heard of that. I'll check it out!

I'm thinking maybe if I don't find anything that strikes my fancy, i may just get the halpern packs since they have bigger kits than Modern & Massive. (i only have MM right now with GGD)
 

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Although EZ Drummer and Superior Drummer share some sample libraries, Superior drummer goes way deeper into customizing sounds. EZ Drummer is recording friendly while Superior Drummer gives you raw sounds, ambient mic samples, & more overall options. Using the raw sounds, the expectation is that you already have outboard gear or a plugin suite to really fine tune the raw sounds to how you want them to sound on your sessions.

I mostly use Superior Drummer for the MIDI integration options but use EZ Drummer libraries since they are a bit more recording-ready sounds.
 

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I used Superior Drummer for years, because its editing capabilities are endless. It's like mixing a real, well-recorded drumkit.

However...

At some point I realized I always had specific sounds in my head, and I was spending way too much time tweaking those endless drumkit options.

So I installed EZDrummer, and to my surprise, with minimal tweaking (it still supports some tweaking) I found the sounds I hear in my head. Since then, Superior is collecting dust, while EZDrummer is being heavily used.

The Death Metal EZX sounds particularly good to my ears, and pretty much to everything (not only metal music).
 

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SSD has fantastic samples, it’s just their GUI that leaves less to be desired, but with some counsel from them, I was able to expand the kit to more toms and percussion. There’s another thread about it with a YouTube link.
 

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Just curious, does Kontakt work better (i.e. less crashing) if you have the full version? I'm thinking of getting GGD and I know you can run it with the free kontakt version but it sounds like that can be buggy... Obviously that costs money though :(
 

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@thebeesknees22 when does the cymbal cutout happen with Kontakt? Do you run it in stereo or multi out for M&M?

I'm curious and not to be a fanboi or defend Kontakt but I rarely have any issues with it on a mid/low midrange windows 7 pc. I have experienced some cymbal cutout (or the cymbal hit not triggering at all) but it's been pretty rare.
 

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Just curious, does Kontakt work better (i.e. less crashing) if you have the full version? I'm thinking of getting GGD and I know you can run it with the free kontakt version but it sounds like that can be buggy... Obviously that costs money though :(
It was about the same tbh. I don't get crashing though. The main issues I have are sometimes hits being cut short and it doesn't seem to save presets with everything I've changed. i.e.) it won't actually save the output settings on the individual mics and i have to reset those every time I put down a new one. Perhaps that's user error on my part, or maybe that's just a limitation of kontakt.



@thebeesknees22 when does the cymbal cutout happen with Kontakt? Do you run it in stereo or multi out for M&M?

I'm curious and not to be a fanboi or defend Kontakt but I rarely have any issues with it on a mid/low midrange windows 7 pc. I have experienced some cymbal cutout (or the cymbal hit not triggering at all) but it's been pretty rare.
Oh i'm on a macbook pro 2019. I haven't tried it yet, but i'm wondering it it would be more consistent if I did a purge before printing.

edit: i'm running multi outs always. And I'm in Cubase fwiw (which my issues could be cubase related as well)
 

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Hey fellas!
So I have EZ drummer 2, and GGD, and I've pretty much just been using GGD exclusively for the last 2 years. I like it a lot, but I'm wondering what the next step up would be if there be one.

Superior drummer 3?
addictive drums?

Looking at sound quality/raw-ish samples more than anything. 🤔

I haven't researched drum software in a while.
Ye gourds, you'll laugh at me: I last used VSTi drums on Cubase VST circa 2004, and got a lot of mileage out of Battery. After an awfully long hiatus, I've scrambled together a decent hybrid rig - but I'm firmly stuck in the past. Proof: bought a bunch of antique discs just to get the serial # for Battery 3 (which apparently still runs on Cubase 9.5)!

I'll be watching your thread to find out how much I don't know :)
 


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