Best amp/modeler/software option for home office use?

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  1. landmvrks

    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    I have an Axe Fx II XL+ that I currently use with my studio monitors, but I can't help but feel it's kind of being wasted on me and I might be better off putting the money into a nicer guitar. I pretty much plug in my guitar and use a single preset I downloaded every time I play, and I never play guitar outside of my office. I never play loud because my wife is always around, and I also don't like the amount of space the Axe Fx takes up on my desk, it's a pretty big piece of equipment.

    In my case, would I be better off using software and something like the Will Putney STL plugins through my studio monitors? Will this sound just as good for the basic needs I have, which is nice sounding, heavy tones?
     
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    steinmetzify CHUG & SLUDGE

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    https://soundcloud.com/steinmetzify/tbamii

    That's Mercuriall's ReAxis on one side, and the Nameless Suite from NDSP on the other.

    Nolly Suite from NDSP:

    https://soundcloud.com/steinmetzify/aidtarcnolly-1

    You can definitely get heavy tones from plugins nowadays; mostly depends on IRs, comp specs and your interface/latency as to whether or not you're going to like it though. I did the same thing you did awhile back; I wasn't playing as much and the AxeII was a pretty pricey piece of gear for me to have just sitting on the desk. Sold it and went to plugins for awhile. Worked out for me.
     
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    Been there, done that...
    Don't sell your Axe FX. That's just foolish.
    I know, cuz I did the same thing...twice.

    If you want a "nicer" guitar, save some money and do it later.
    Otherwise, you'll just be chasing your tail.
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    Buy an FM3.
     
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    I hear you about the footprint of rack equipment in a desk. Some people don't mind, some people (like me) do.

    I was on the waitlist for the Axe FM3 but since I got some Neural DSP plugins I don't feel like spending 1300€ on the FM3 anymore (since I don't need +200 amps).

    All plugin companies have demos of their products. Download them and judge yourself. Current favourites are Neural DSP, Audio Assault, Mercuriall... :yesway:
     
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  6. landmvrks

    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you notice an obvious drop in quality when moving to plugins and playing through your studio monitors at bedroom levels? Honestly I'm not going to be recording, so my biggest need is something that sounds good through my monitors.
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    The bedroom levels is where things fall down. Fletcher Munsen (munson) curve cares not about your needs :lol:.

    Get headphones, turn up.
     
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    steinmetzify CHUG & SLUDGE

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    What @budda said. Headphones work better for that kind of stuff. Get some closed back ones if you can, use some reverb. Works great.

    Try it out man. All the big companies let you try their stuff for free. See what you think. You dig it, right on. You don’t you know and problem solved.
     
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    cwhitey2 BlackendCrust Metal™

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    Came here to say this.
     
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    For what you're doing, I'd absolutely go plugin... That axe-fx might sell for good change these days with everyone buying up everything under the sun heh
     
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    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    Issue is I have to get an audio interface to try out the plugins, I don't currently have one outside of the Axe. Otherwise you're right, the free trials would tell me what I need to know.
     
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    steinmetzify CHUG & SLUDGE

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    Take all the blocks out of your chain and just use it as an interface, sir.
     
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    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    We have a thinker :deathm:
     
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    I have an FM3 and it does everything I need. I picked up STL and it’s cool but if you like what you have why change “for no reason” except to free up some cash?

    Your call but any option is going to be fun for just at home practice.

    It’s crazy the options available to sound so good for so cheap nowadays.
     
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    Why not just download some amp sims and try it yourself and see if you like it versus the Axe?
     
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    Yeah I'm going to use the trial features on a couple of Neural plugins tomorrow and compare it to the Axe.
     
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    I suggest trying your own IRs if you have them. I never like the stock IRs on plugins. I think I've only found 1 or 2 that have ever been good and even still they weren't as good as the ones I have.
     
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    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    Sorry, can you explain this a little more? I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to guitar software (only really owned regular amps before this Axe Fx). What do you mean by my own IRs? I did a quick google, and it says an IR is an amp? I don't have my own an amp right now, I'm just using my studio monitors. Excuse the ignornace.
     
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    IRs are essentially like sims for your speakers. You have the amp sim but it has to play through a "cabinet"..so that's what an IR is. And just like there are a million different types of speakers, there's a million different types of IRs
     
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    landmvrks SS.org Regular

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    Thank you f
    Thank you for taking the time to explain that. So you're saying that the "cabinet" (IRs) in the plugins are no good? I don't have any of my own, so I guess I'll just have to use what is in the plugin and see how it goes. Probably going to try the Neural Plini and Gojira plugins to compare with the Axe Fx.
     

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