Anyone here try the "Tremmory" yet?

[kmanick]

I've got a Charvel wildcard #4 that has a recessed trem, I bought one the Vai "toneVice" drop D tuners but need a way stabilize the trem without losing any pull up or pull down functionality.
the Tremol-no seems to be the only other "Legit" system to pull this off , but I saw Ola's video on this and now it's got me intrigued. $121.00 bucks is pretty steep but if it works as advertised
it will turn one of my gigging guitars into a total work horse.

 

[lost_horizon]

I have one and it is amazing in my profile pic guitar on a Gotoh GE1996t

I am doing a trem stabiliser comparison vid.

WD music Trem Stabliser is the cheapest and can do unison bends https://www.wdmusic.com/tremolo-stabilizer-details.html
Goeldo Backbox is better than the WD for tremelo upbends and flutters but worse for other things like unison bends and slightly more expensive
Tremmory is the best of both worlds. Annoying thing about the tremory is how far out it sticks out (if you have trem cover etc) you can take the adjustment nut off if it's annoying.

Keep in mind only 1 string can be slack with the tremmory. With the WD Music one two strings can go slack before others out of tune.

 

[kmanick]

So mine finally arrived last night. Initially I was going to put it into mu Jackson soloist but the holes on the trem block were on the far side and it was impossible to get the pin to go in, so I decided to put it on my Charvel Socal
this guitar has a top mounted Floyd so there is not a lot of pull up to begin with but I really "warble" a lot when I improvise so a little upward travel while being able to drop D on the fly was my main objective.
so far so good, when I drop D it is almost perfect, my G and B strings are still going just a tiny bit sharp when I drop but it's so close I can fine tune quickly. I need to do a restring so I will revist this then and see if I can get it perfect.
I got the shortest one they make "S' and I still had to take off a spring and really crank in the claw to get it to fit.
The makers of this thing really should take a look at some more Jackson /Charvel trem cavities.
Ideally you should not have to remove a spring and crank the claw in so far just to get this thing to fit.
so does it work? well so far I would have to say yes
My trem is not too noticeably stiffer, I am staying in tune and I can still pull up to "vibrate" any notes or harmonics. I have a D-Tuna on my charvel and as I mentioned it's almost perfect when dropping.
Mine does not stick out I actually put the back plate back on mine.
So thumbs up for performance , Thomann delivered it to me here in Boston on Wednesday, I ordered it on Friday night not bad at all
thumbs down for cost
$99 for the unit and $30 to ship from Germany, but so far out of everything else I've tried this is working out the best.

 

[kmanick]

So I used this guitar at a rehearsal tonight and I've got to say this thing is pretty cool. The Guys at Tremmory walked me through how to set this up correctly and now
I'm pretty impressed. My charvel held tune really well all night, it's very cool that I can still pull up, and dive bomb , then drop D and be pretty much still in perfect tune, my G went just a tiny bit sharp but besides that it worked as advertised. It does make the trem pretty stiff but we did a few songs tonight where I get to really use my trem and it was completely workable.
I may just get one more of these for my Jackson soloist.

 

[kmanick]

Got a chance to use this at a gig yesterday
3 45 minute sets some examplesffo what I used this guitar on with the tremmory engaged.
Night Ranger "Don't Tell me you love me" the flutters took some coaxing at the end of the first solo but I am 6 foot 210 pounds (ya Tremmory don't F with me) it does stiffen up the trem a lot
Autograph "Turn Up the radio" I go kind of nuts during the intro to this one doing all of the stuff he did on the CD but still worked fine
Ratt "Lay it down" the reason I installed this thing was so I could drop D on my Charvel without losing the ability to pull up (it's not much but I still get to warble)
(ya I know it's dad rock..... we're all dads and it's in demand for whatever reason)
So a couple of things jumped out at me
#1 I did not have to retune my guitar once during 3 45 minute sets (even with all of gymnastics I was doing. I checked it between almost every song and it stayed right on.
# 2 We do some Stevie Ray Vaughn we actually opened the show yesterday with 'Couldn't stand the Weather" and when you play Stevie on a floyd equipped guitar it's tough to get some of his nuance
but the Tremmory helped here quite a bit, no strings going flat during bends , it really made some of the stuff I had to do sound much better.

Very Impressed with this little thing, I still think it's way over priced and they do need to make one more smaller size , but it actually worked as advertised

 

[lost_horizon]

As i said in my video man you can buy a more expensive trem but you will still be in the same boat. The tremmory has made my guitar the perfect studio and stage guitar.

 

[mrvomit]

nd really crank in the claw to get it to fit.

I have one and it is amazing in my profile pic guitar on a Gotoh GE1996t

I am doing a trem stabiliser comparison vid.

WD music Trem Stabliser is the cheapest and can do unison bends https://www.wdmusic.com/tremolo-stabilizer-details.html
Goeldo Backbox is better than the WD for tremelo upbends and flutters but worse for other things like unison bends and slightly more expensive
Tremmory is the best of both worlds. Annoying thing about the tremory is how far out it sticks out (if you have trem cover etc) you can take the adjustment nut off if it's annoying.

Keep in mind only 1 string can be slack with the tremmory. With the WD Music one two strings can go slack before others out of tune.

i'm quite interested in it as i would like to drop d in one guitar , most probably a rg7620 of mine ( i have 1 gotoh Vivaldi Charvel 7 too which could like to install in ) .
Problem is
What they label as "Distance A" (distance between Block and Claw ) in my ibbies is about 76mm ( same size as their "M" size ) with 3/ 4 spring in it depending of the guitar and are already CRANKED at CLAW side ( using 10 gauge elixir standard tuning bit stiffer than normal strings ) . But they say "take away 3-5mm at that distance .

I found a used M (76mm long) for 60€ +shipping , based on that it would not fit any ibbie i have , maybe only the Vivaldi equipping her with stiffier strings since is 72mm but still not sure about .. i wonder.. where the F***" would go those "L" sizes if everywhere ( forums , video comments, thomann item review etc etc ) i read "S" are already a tough fit ?

Also tremmory site claims there is no added tension but some users mention added tension by tremmory , really confusing .
Questions
1) i guess that tremmory can be "extended" from 71 to 74 as a pivot to accomodate your cavity lenght , i mean that unit has a RANGE of millimeters it's not just fixed 71/76/81right ?
2) Does allow FLutters and stuff when DISENGAGED ( looseng the thumbwheel)? CAuse i did read opposite experiences on that .

_______Here as follow the instructions i found____

http://tremmory.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Tremmory_Einbaueinleitung_EN.pdf

Installation instructions
Tremmory system
Installation requirements
The Tremmory system can be ordered in 3 lengths (S, M and L), the
respective lengths being 71mm, 76mm and 81mm.
Thus the minimum required installation length for the Tremmory is 71mm.
Before beginning the installation, it is imperative to check the length between the tremolo
block and the spring claw to ensure that the Tremmory system fits the length of your guitar.
For this purpose the free space between the spring claw and the tremolo block must be
measured subtracting 3-5mm.

 

[kmanick]

it does add tension
if you loosen the thumb wheel it does disengage it so you can flutter and go nuts.
I used a small and it has plenty of room to go bigger if need be.
I took my middle spring out and had to crank the trem screws in a good deal to get it to fit. once installed it works great
I may get one for my 1550M too

 

[mrvomit]

it does add tension
if you loosen the thumb wheel it does disengage it so you can flutter and go nuts.
I used a small and it has plenty of room to go bigger if need be.
I took my middle spring out and had to crank the trem screws in a good deal to get it to fit. once installed it works great
I may get one for my 1550M too

ordered.Installed. Quite diferent thoughts about it..mixed feelings ( mine to install was hard as hell and i deassemble clean /my floyds since years ) , dunno if mine was like that . I erased the message before cvause i want to try it more,so different response than what i read.

 

[kmanick]

ordered.Installed. Quite diferent thoughts about it..mixed feelings ( mine to install was hard as hell and i deassemble clean /my floyds since years ) , dunno if mine was like that . I erased the message before cvause i want to try it more,so different response than what i read.

mine was somewhat hard to install as well , I had to hook th eend over the craw and then grab the end that goes into the trem block with needle nose pliers and pull it into position. Once I did that it was a lot easier to get it in there. Llevel the bridge(get the guitar in tune) keep the thumb wheel loose. make sure you're in tune , dive bomb , lock the wheel and retune. now you should be good to go.
Once I got mine installed and set properly it's worked fantastic, but I agree it was maddening at first to even get it into my guitar, I almost sent it back and the guys at tremmory responded to me and told me the steps I just outlined.

 

[mrvomit]

mine was somewhat hard to install as well , I had to hook th eend over the craw and then grab the end that goes into the trem block with needle nose pliers and pull it into position. Once I did that it was a lot easier to get it in there. Llevel the bridge(get the guitar in tune) keep the thumb wheel loose. make sure you're in tune , dive bomb , lock the wheel and retune. now you should be good to go.
Once I got mine installed and set properly it's worked fantastic, but I agree it was maddening at first to even get it into my guitar, I almost sent it back and the guys at tremmory responded to me and told me the steps I just outlined.

i figured something by myself in 30 minutes( of swearings and also the spring included looks too tiny if one should replace it , i wonder how you can replace it if you want , manual instruction are not clear , no photo and nor in site t their info is shit .. also there are some drawbacks but i will try another guitar or lock this one in a way ..piston resistance noise and other stuff , i'm a muscular guy who disassembe his own floyds since decades and that thing was hard as hell i scracthed the block even.., in the videos a far smaller frame guy did it with one hand..almost did send back too lol lol , will see ( it alsop change the soundwhen engaged but a minoer interesting thing) .
Small size and when i pull up seriously piston touch the claw ,but also some nice things too about , must get used a bit before to decide

 

[kmanick]

I

i figured something by myself in 30 minutes( of swearings and also the spring included looks too tiny if one should replace it , i wonder how you can replace it if you want , manual instruction are not clear , no photo and nor in site t their info is shit .. also there are some drawbacks but i will try another guitar or lock this one in a way ..piston resistance noise and other stuff , i'm a muscular guy who disassembe his own floyds since decades and that thing was hard as hell i scracthed the block even.., in the videos a far smaller frame guy did it with one hand..almost did send back too lol lol , will see ( it alsop change the soundwhen engaged but a minoer interesting thing) .
Small size and when i pull up seriously piston touch the claw ,but also some nice things too about , must get used a bit before to decide

have mine installed on a MIJ Charvel Socal. top mounted floyd , so I don't have that much room to pull up with to begin with, but it does allow me to flutter and pull up with what I do have, and I have a D-tuna on it so I didn't want to have to block the trem. Mine works great, it did stiffen the trem a bit but I am 6 foot 210 pounds, it's not a issue for me

 

[lost_horizon]

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have mine installed on a MIJ Charvel Socal. top mounted floyd , so I don't have that much room to pull up with to begin with, but it does allow me to flutter and pull up with what I do have, and I have a D-tuna on it so I didn't want to have to block the trem. Mine works great, it did stiffen the trem a bit but I am 6 foot 210 pounds, it's not a issue for me

Yes I took out a spring to install and I love the feel. I only ever use as little springs as I can with 9-46.

 

[mrvomit]

well with d-tuna you have already almost not-existant place for bends up so i can get different feeling /needings .
The 2 springs and ligh stuff also i see very well as more suited for that too ,being that the piston -noise i hear (not in the amp) is caused by not perfect alignement of the piston caused by the different angle of the other 3 springs ( the srpings compensate buy themsevles but their plane-lane are different from the tremmory by a little amount , which can vary depending of YOUR personal single guitar- Tremblock height ) ..i also have elixir 10 and .. .elixir are stiffer than normal strings so that means need stiffer springs
Finally is 110€ btw in thomann(what i paid) .That thing should be more like 80 honestly ,is not holy grail level but a well live+ home rehearse compromise ,perhaps would work far better in 6 string--cause on the 7 it must "compensate" 1 string more leading to more "irregularityin the speaded tension" and that's why i notice is working more partially that i 've hoped for .
Every single mileage vary accord to the rig .
Only thing we and everyone else i think do agree is the M and L sizes needing for ,lolz

 

[mrvomit]

lolz i found one used 1 day after i purchased mine , i was like "what''' did not pop up and i looked for" . Ended taking it another .. and i 'm the one who criticised it more rotlf that's why i put a fixed amount of money in my prepaid card, took even a guitar Bentonm b-stock fro, Thomann cause it has roasted neck i never tried ,stainless steel and floyd 1000 and i don't fokk need it .. and then i've discovered very late that thomann has my dream (lookingwise) guitar- in 6 form though- but i don't have money iin card enough ( Les paul shape black with gold hardware and floyd ) .
I hate everything myself included , became another " little gear "of the great wheel