tedtan
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Historically, a PM that manages to win a no confidence vote loses power and is out of office pretty quickly, so I doubt he has a year left before he’s replaced.
Any Brits here?
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LostTheTone
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Don't be so hyperbolic.
Firstly, we are a parliamentary system. The PM is just an MP, he doesn't have any special place in the system. The only way to stay in post is to have the support of the largest party. And on top of that, he cannot change the law. Only parliament can. And if you think that MPs just meekly vote whichever way they are whipped, you don't know many MPs.
Secondly, Boris is halfway through his first term in office and he's having a rough go of it. What makes you think he wants to stay? What do you think he wants to do? His obvious next career move is to a highly paid after dinner speaker.
These days it seem that everyone fantasises about having properly evil political enemies. It seems that people are just making up an opponent bad enough to justify the incandescent outrage they already feel.
Louis Cypher
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Boris and the Tory's tried to chage the parlimentary rules last year in order to prevent Owen Paterson from suspension for breaching paid advocacy rules which ended up in such a sh1tshow that Paterson resigned as an MP. They also illegally prorogued parliament in 2019, Partygate obvious law breaking, breaking international law to illegally change the NI protocal.... could go on and on with how his MP's & the RW press protect Boris at all costs, regardless of his law breaking, so its certainly not hyperbole to suggest Boris and the party wouldnt, given the chance, try to find a way for him to remain in power no matter what he does that in any other time in parlimentary history would has seen him resign as PM & an MP. However I do think you're right in that Boris is desperate to be the Ex PM of this country and go back to making millions a year on the speech circuirt like May and all the other ex PM's.... He is quoted as saying his PM salary of £150k a year is chickenfeed I believe...
Anyway, the Gov wants us all to be mad at The EU, the ECHR, asylum seekers, migrants, lefty lawyers, climate protesters, GPs, Remainers and their despicable plotting, train drivers, the Unions etc etc anyone really as long as no one is angry with Boris, he is doing his best, bless him......
LostTheTone
Elegant Djentleman
Thing is though... I read the Guardian. And every single day I see both paid columnists and individual commenters posting the same thing - That Boris wishes to be either dictator or king.
I suppose you might be seriously right wing, and be parodying such comments, but even in that case you've become a victim of Poe's Law and your parody is indistinguishable from the real thing.
Here's a comment from the Guardian story I was reading in another tab:
"Boris Johnson is the political representative of the rentiers/rent seekers in their intra-bourgeois struggle against the entrepreneurs. The rentiers seek to subvert the 'rule of law' paradigm and reassert the aristocratic power of inherited wealth over productive entrepreneural capitalist investment."
Does this sound like whimsical hyperbole? Or does this sound like someone who seriously believes that Boris wishes to become some sort of unelected despot who rules over people as his vassals? Of course, ignored in this comment is the fact that Boris is not an aristocrat. His family have a few quid, but they have never been noble, and Boris only went to Eton on a scholarship. Boris is posher than I am (middle class grammar school boy) but he is only as posh as a mate of mine (Kings school boy, son of a self-made millionaire).
My point really is that when you repeat things that you know not to be true, and do so very often, a lot of people start to believe them. That's how cognitive behavioural therapy works. You repeat something often enough and it changes the way you think and feel.
Repeating a lie with no obvious irony when you know it's not true is not healthy and after a while you will forget that it's not true.
There is a great deal to despise about our present government. Why lie about them? Unless you want to convince yourself they are as bad as you feel they are?
Louis Cypher
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So breaking in the last hour, Javid and Sunak have both quit the cabinet over Johnsons fcuking bullsh1t fcuk up over promoting a man he had been previously advised was a sexual predator.
Obviously.... Nadine Dorris has come out in full 100% support of Johnson..... probably thinks she has a chance at being Chancellor
Obviously.... Nadine Dorris has come out in full 100% support of Johnson..... probably thinks she has a chance at being Chancellor
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I remember about 15-16 years ago, a mate and I having a laugh about seeing a Boris For President t-shirt and finding the incongruous idea hilarious.
Doesn't seem that funny now. Feel a little ashamed, actually.
Doesn't seem that funny now. Feel a little ashamed, actually.
Louis Cypher
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A group of cabinet ministers inc Gove, Lewis, the Chief Whip and Schapps have all told Johnson he should step down, the 1922 committee is meeting as well to discuss removing him, 31 ministers have now quit and yet Johnson is telling the Liaison committee right now that he is having "... a terrific week." And has no intention of stepping down lol!!! You can't make this utter cluster fuck of an omni shambles up
How the hell does a PM with an 80 seat majority won less than 3 yrs ago fuck over his and his party so badly?? Ohh yeah... coz he is a serial liar, cheat and rule breaker of not only his own governments laws but international laws and treatys as well..... only person to blame for him losing his PM job is Johnson himself, utterly unfit to be an MP let alone hold the highest office in the land!
How the hell does a PM with an 80 seat majority won less than 3 yrs ago fuck over his and his party so badly?? Ohh yeah... coz he is a serial liar, cheat and rule breaker of not only his own governments laws but international laws and treatys as well..... only person to blame for him losing his PM job is Johnson himself, utterly unfit to be an MP let alone hold the highest office in the land!
Louis Cypher
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Nadhim Zahawi it's been announced is also one of the cabinet ministers who have told Boris he needs to go!! Lol!! He only got promoted to chancellor 24 hrs ago and was doing the rounds this morning on tv defending Johnson and stating the PM is not a liar! Lol!! Fcuking hell...
Drew
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To be fair, Johnson didn't know any of this during the committee meeting, and only found out maybe an hour ago that there'd been 32 resignations since he went in to meet with the committee.
But yeah, high stakes drama going down in the UK today. I think 32 was the size of his margin on the last vote of confidence, so I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Boris is dead in the water as we speak, and he just doesn't know it yet.
Drew
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Yeah, bloomberg page 1 headline: "Downing Street mood reported to be grim, tearful."
Louis Cypher
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The BBC is reporting that apparently Boris is quoted in a meeting today that he is going no where no matter how many mps want him to as "...millions voted for him" in 2019 and there is no one in the tory party other than him who could poss win the next election....
Just to reiterate Bozo knowingly promoted a known sexual predator who has a history of multiple allegations made against him and at least one complaint was upheld, to a position of trust over other MPs and their staff as deputy chief whip and then lied for 4 days about it and as a tory MP in PMQs today said Boris stated that the last allegations from last week, MPs there should have stopped him drinking to prevent the assault from happening... not with regards to any concern for the victim but because last weeks alleged assault has meant Boris has been busted and the party have finally had enough and are abandoning him. Operation Save Big Dog as always
Just to reiterate Bozo knowingly promoted a known sexual predator who has a history of multiple allegations made against him and at least one complaint was upheld, to a position of trust over other MPs and their staff as deputy chief whip and then lied for 4 days about it and as a tory MP in PMQs today said Boris stated that the last allegations from last week, MPs there should have stopped him drinking to prevent the assault from happening... not with regards to any concern for the victim but because last weeks alleged assault has meant Boris has been busted and the party have finally had enough and are abandoning him. Operation Save Big Dog as always
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Drew
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Well, then he's going to lose a no confidence vote, and he's going to find out if any other Tory could win.
Word I'm seeing (Bloomberg) is so far he's still deciding to fight, but it doesn't look like he can win and he may bow to that reality. We'll know more in a couple hours, at most.
StevenC
Javier Strat 7 2024
Looks like Boris has finally become a Remainer
Louis Cypher
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A record 14 ministers have quit today
And yet Boris has told the Daily Mail tonight that he will not quit as that would cause "chaos" lol!! Not sure what the last 24 hrs have been if not chaos?!
And yet Boris has told the Daily Mail tonight that he will not quit as that would cause "chaos" lol!! Not sure what the last 24 hrs have been if not chaos?!
StevenC
Javier Strat 7 2024
StevenC
Javier Strat 7 2024
Worst birthday everFTFY
