Anime/manga megathread

Discussion in 'Movies, Books, TV & Media' started by Fat-Elf, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Aceshighhhh

    Aceshighhhh SS.org Regular

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    I'd say Clannad. I've seen all of them and Clannad is just so much more memorable. I'm hardly an emotional person but After Story almost became too much at times:bowdown:


    Evangelion is a bit overrated IMO.(insert 2deep4u joke)
     
  2. kamello

    kamello DESU METARU!

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    that represents the Japanese contemporary culture in an accurate, or at least similar way to how it really is :)
     
  3. Alberto7

    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    ^Got me right there :lol:, I don't actually have an anime for that. The one that comes to mind as the most "slice-of-life" kind of anime would be Usagi Drop. And, it being a Japanese anime, I take that its slice-of-life nature depicts more-or-less typical days in the life of your average Japanese person.

    I'll tell you something that has helped me understand Japanese culture a bit better: learning a bit more about the Sengoku and Edo periods of Japan. I've learned mostly by:

    - Watching anime based on historical accounts: Rurouni Kenshin.

    - Films that show life in Japan as it was during those times: Samurai Seven and Zatoichi.

    - Books that talk about the Japanese lifestyle of the time: Shogun. Read that. It's absolutely brilliant. It's beautifully written and it's very detailed, but without getting lost in details so much that it becomes boring. It's closely based on real characters and real events, just barely changing their names (although names of places and battles remain the same, for the most part).

    (Those recommendations aren't necessarily the best, but are the ones I've seen).

    Of course, those things tend to exaggerate some times, so I always double checked facts online (Wikipedia is your friend) to check if they really happened, and to go a bit more in depth into whatever I was looking for. I also have a friend studying East-Asian and Japanese culture, and he's currently living in Japan. He's been an incredible source of information as well. He's taught me, loosely, how the language works, and it surprisingly lends itself to the culture, too.

    Ultimately, by understanding their roots a bit better, you understand how that culture developed into what it is nowadays. Of course, you can never stop learning. I am, of course, just an amateur with no experience whatsoever, but I do feel like I understand Japanese culture a little better nowadays.

    Perhaps Bloody_Inferno will chime in eventually :lol:.
     
  4. Aceshighhhh

    Aceshighhhh SS.org Regular

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    As far as a slice of life anime that accurately represents modern Japanease culture, I would HIGHLY recommend Welcome to the N.H.K. - it's one of my favorites.

    It's basically about a 22 year old NEET(Not in Employment, Education or Training) - a guy who is afraid of society and stays couped up in his apartment in fear of going outside. This is actually quite a big issue in Japan at the moment, with tons of young adult males suffering from this sort of social stigma.

    I feel like a lot of people on this forum would relate to the main character. I know I do :lol:
     
  5. Nyx Erebos

    Nyx Erebos SS.org Regular

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    Actually that one made me laugh at the beginning because it reminded me of my intense gamer's life back in middle school, but the story of the main character getting into the real world was really depressing. The scene on the cliff made me laugh and cry inside at the same time.
     
  6. God Hand Apostle

    God Hand Apostle Tin Foil Central

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    In the video details it is noted as True Fist Legend. However, the full english name is True Fist Legend Tight Road while the japanese name is Shinken Densetsu Tight Road. Aired October 7, 1994-December 28, 1994. Good luck finding anything more than that tho.
     
  7. Bloody_Inferno

    Bloody_Inferno Silence is Violence

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    :lol: Held back for a while because I was busy and need to sit down to reply:

    If my previous post had proven anything, it just shows signs of my age. :ugh:

    Now I'm sitting down, be prepared for a culture shock:

    Cracked pretty much summed up the outside world's cultural preception of Japan in 3 pictures:

    1900:

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    1997: One year before Google was founded:

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    Today:

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    Okay, glad I got that out of the way. :lol: Now comes the real point:


    Japan really isn't all that weird.


    I'll be honest, I don't know many actual "slice of life" themed anime (I may have some, but I don't really watch them), but if there's one thing I've observed is that a lot of the anime themes (or the weird wierd world of Japan in general) are the result of a conformist nation venting.

    I've touched on how some of the everyday scenes from anime are basically something out of a typical everyday life in Japan. I've seen a bunch of drunk business men eating at Yakitori place and they were pretty loud and complained about their work. One would normally think, Japanese are usually polite, but in this case it really is no different from walking to a pub with your workmates after a day's work. I've been to parties and karaoke bars with a ton of Japanese and I've noticed that the girls who act like anime characters are usually considered immature. They can be annoyingly loud too...

    I purposely ended my last post with the link where Japan sees anime being still meant for kids. For one think the word Otaku actually means obsession. And Japan has a very negative view on "adult-anime-nerds". Case in point: how the Governor of Tokyo said that the tsunami was a divine punishment to anime geeks and got re-elected for it. Bear in mind that more than 50 percent of the Japanese population are in the middle ages and older, and a lot of them still stubbornly hang on to many age old traditions. Also add to the fact that Japan is one of the most homogenous nations in the world.

    But a lot of what we see as ridiculous Japanese trends were actually of Western influence:

    For the record: Rurouni Kenshin was set in the Bakumatsu to Meiji Restoration era. ;)

    That transition in Japanese history was very important. Prior to that; was 300 years of the Edo reign that began from constant war of every state of Japan against each other... also the source of tons of Samurai Anime themes equivalent of the Wild West or European Medieval times. Of course not many of them will touch the homoerotic traditions of Samurai though, surprisingly Samurai Champaloo did. :lol: And of course you've got the story of how the samurai hairstyle was laughed at by the Western world.

    Anyways, the Meiji Restoration was important as viewers of Rurouni Kenshin ought to know. A certain cast member of Friends bought a bunch of black ships and gave Japan the ultimatum to assimilate Western Culture and industrialise, or die. Japan industrialised and worked extremely hard (more on this later) to a point where things got out of hand, making a terrible decision to attack America. For those who don't know their history: MAJOR SPOILER ALERT! It didn't end well for Japan.

    Funny because of that major incident, Godzilla and the giant monster (Kaiju) film genre was born. And incidentally enough, so did a ton of post-Apocalyptic anime. Notice how even with some of the modern anime, Tokyo's usually the first to go.

    WWII bought in a ton of other Western influences. And a lot are hot topics in anime. For instance tentacle rape and pixelated male genitilia was the result of American censorship being introduced. Prior to that, it was never considered taboo. Underwear was another issue. Women never wore undies prior to the Western influence. This also lead to all sorts of silly things like used underwear vending machines. They're highly illegal by the way.

    So that ought to explain why Hentai exists, and that there is certainly an audience for it.

    You've seen how anime treats the workplace: I said before how workers were just complaining about their job after hours. Considering how the Japanese working man stereotype is to work themselves to death, you can thank a certain W Edwards Deming for that one. A friend of mine was saying that in most companies, it's very impolite to go home before your boss does. Yep, that's absolutely true.

    Funny enough, anime animators have to work like dogs as their wages aren't that much. And even more striking is that the anime industry is in fact dying on it's ass.

    Ultimately, with all of this happening, it comes to no surprise that a lot of the artists were affected by all of the events of the last few centuries. This resulted in a whole heap of weird-ass subcultures too like Lolitas, Gyaru and for those adventurous enough, look up Yankii...

    Though some Western family values are also touched on anime as well: the first episode of Great Teacher Onizuka touches on the hard working stereotype and focuses on family first. And it's no secret that the Japanese are infactuated by Western culture: they really love Disney, and they love light skinned blondes. It's come to a point where my friends and I joke about how and why a lot of Japanese women tend to marry non Japanese, and for various reasons such as breaking out of their male-ruled conformist traditions or a taste of exotic culture or perception of good looks etc... which leads to a few of the homogenic problems I mentioned earlier.

    Still, with all that said and done, don't let all of the above stop you from watching anime or learing more about Japan (I've only touched the surface here). It's a beautiful country with beautiful people, and I've got a heap of awesome Japanese friends. But really it's just a normal country, it's actually pretty ordinary outside Tokyo. They just love to portray and romanticise a lot of their history, culture and a lot of imagination into a form of entertainment we can all enjoy.



    TLDR: Japan really isn't all that weird.



    But enough of my ramblings... MOAR ANIME! :lol:


    EDIT: Regarding the otaku culture, Genshiken is an manga/anime that addresses heavily on the subculture, references and all. It's pretty funny actually.
     
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    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    ^ As usual, you deliver :lol:

    The way I see it, modern day Japan is basically the result of a clash of two cultures and, more particularly, two different ways of thinking. When two cultures as different as those two meet... well, I'd be surprised if the outcome weren't anything similar to tentacle porn :lol:. It's a long topic to elaborate on, and I certainly do not have the necessary knowledge to expand on it without sounding like an idiot, but, with the little that I do know, I can definitely see how contemporary Japanese culture is based very much on a mix of both Western and traditional Japanese ways of thinking.

    Okay, now to speak anime.

    It was mentioned on the last page, but I'll mention it again:
    SHINGEKI NO KYOJIN :eek:. Jesus Christ, I've only watched the first 3 episodes, but it's just so exciting from the very get-go. Keeps you on the edge of your seat at all times. It's absolutely brutal. This should be soundtrack for it; I wish I could listen to this while watching the show:


    But the opening is pretty epic as well :lol:


    The art and animation are just as badass and beautiful as in the opening. I also hear it gets intense x1,000,000,000 after the 5th episode. It's still airing, and only 7 episodes have come out so far.

    In other news, I'm almost done with Clannad: After Story. I'm about to begin watching episode 21. I should be making a small review of it after I finish it. But, let me just say, it's made me feel like utter shit. It's so bad. I wake up, and as soon as I remember what happened on the last few episodes, or as soon as I remember the music from it (it becomes catchy after so many episodes), I get depressed. Ano Hana was bad. But this shit's just evil. (On a more objective and non-exaggerated note, it's actually a VERY good anime; the best of its kind that I have seen, and high up in my list of anime that I like. Extremely touching. But I'll leave that for when I write that quick review).

    NOTE: the terms "bad," "evil," and the like were used loosely, and were not meant in a literal sense :lol:... except perhaps "evil." Some times I think it is just genuinely evil :ugh:

    EDIT: and yeah, you're right about Kenshin. I probably should have mentioned it was during the Bakumatsu and Meiji era, but I thought that they're related enough to the Edo period. But you're right. Accurately speaking, it describes what the transition between the Edo and Meiji eras was like (going through the Bakumatsu).
     
  9. Cynic

    Cynic Bored Stiff

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    clannad and afterstory are really good. dude's life gets flipped turned upside down tho
     
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    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    I literally finished it not 2 minutes ago. I can say I am ENTIRELY satisfied with the ending, and the anime as a whole. If I ever thought that starting this anime was a mistake (because, let's face it, it's an effing roller coaster), the last 3 episodes alone really made me change my mind.

    Now bed time :lol:
     
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    Cynic Bored Stiff

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    dude has it rough in afterstory. it's like

    "shit, i stubbed my toe. i think it's still going to be a good day thoug-"
    "not so fast ............. what if...

    EVERYTHING YOU LOVE DIES
    "
     
  12. Alberto7

    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    ^ Exactly :rofl: it's ....ing brutal. I might put that in spoiler tags, btw.
     
  13. Cynic

    Cynic Bored Stiff

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    how do spoiler tags?

    i think it's vague enough to not be a spoiler, but i guess i'll cover it up.
     
  14. Alberto7

    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    Maybe I'm just exaggerating by other people's standards. However, I just think that this anime works best if you literally know nothing, and just dive right into it. That, and it's easy to deduct what will happen if the viewer keeps what you said before in mind.

    Just type:

    [*spoiler]text to be hidden goes here[*/spoiler]

    but without the * inside the brackets.
     
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    Cynic Bored Stiff

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    fair enough
     
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    I found it pretty obvious that what happened would happened because the anime went in a direction that I liked (it's not a regular cliché anime) so I thought "that would be great if *put spoiler here* and I think it's really going to happen because it'll make the anime legendary".

    Nonetheless with the emotional buildup, the beautiful music and the carefully crafted pictures, it was like the doctor from surgeon simulator did a heart transplant on me.


    Shingeki no kyojin looks badass, those naked giants and the jumping soldiers remind me of claymore.
     
  17. Alberto7

    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    Yeah, I agree completely. Actually, Clannad is rather predictable, but that's part of what makes it good. You'll understand once you watch haha.

    SnK is ....ing RIDICULOUS. Watch only the first episode to get a taste of it. It's just 12 minutes long. You'll be hooked.

    A review for both Clannad and SnK is in order. I started writing yesterday night a review of Clannad (now that I finished it) for this thread, but it's proving so difficult to review without spoiling that I temporarily quit :lol: I'll write it on another moment when I get my thoughts together.
    [Edit] Funny that you mention Claymore, because I just found out that the same screenwriter for SnK was also the screenwriter for Claymore :lol: Yasuko Kobayashi. [/Edit]

    EDIT: I apologize for the misinformation. SnK's first episode isn't 12 minutes long. It's just that I had seen that latter half of it :wallbash:. It's a full 24 minute episode.
     
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    Fat-Elf Banned

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    I've had more than plenty of spare time for the last few days because school's over so I decided to start watching some anime again. Watched the first episode of Bleach last night but as the whole series is almost 400 episodes I won't probably continue it. Just watched the 8th episode of Oreimo's second season and it just keeps getting better each week. I will probably start watching Clannad again as I dropped it after the 4th episode the first time. So many people recommend it that I guess I just have to force my way through it if I don't end up liking it.
     
  19. habicore_5150

    habicore_5150 El Psy Congroove

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    Guess I can add a few more anime to my list here

    Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!!
    Got introduced to this anime after watching about 3 different clips that were uploaded to YouTube. Even though I'm into the first episode, it's got my attention (then again, the clips that I've seen only reflected some of the funnier/weirder moments in the anime)

    Seitokai No Ichizon
    Even though I really don't watch a lot of anime that has this kind of setting, this one is actually pretty good. Contains plenty of parodies to past anime and cartoons

    Shingeki No Kyojin
    Been hearing that this is a pretty crazy anime. Only one episode in and I guess I gotta agree with them. Definitely gonna be watching some more of this over the weekend
     
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    Alberto7 Silly Goose Engineering

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    Don't give up on Clannad just on the 4th episode! It begins to get into the first arc around the 4th-5th. That's when it begins to get interesting.

    I've been on the verge of watching Bleach, just to see what all the fuss is about... but I can't be bothered watching 400+ episodes of anything :/
     

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