A movement has started to get the Marshall Vavlestate 8100 amp reissued.

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  1. Floppystrings

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    I am spreading the word, I know there are lots of Death fans here and some probably know how rare the Marshall Valvestate 8100 head has become.

    I contacted Marshall and they said that there is no demand for a reissue, I disagree... Here is what it sounds like, please spread the word.

     
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    "Movement"

    Look i know ppl still love Death and the Valvestate amp but you arent going to have enough ppl to make Marshall reissue that.
     
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    I remember how much people always hated those. I seriously doubt there is that much of a movement to get them back into production.
     
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    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

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    Marshall reissued the JCM 900 Dual Reverb. They have no idea what they are doing over there, so I wouldn't expect much from them other than randomly generated relatively inexpensive amps to sell at GC.
     
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    Call me when its the Major.
     
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    You might have better luck pitching this to a company who does clones, maybe the first solid state offering from Ceriatone? I’m not a Marshall hater in the least but my honest prediction is that they won’t build a reissue and if they did they’d screw it up (see EL34’s in the JTM45 reissue).
     
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    If they’re smart and kept all the tooling to make them then maybe if you could generate enough traction on social media but...

    The deathmetal crowd isn’t known for being big enough to swing “movements” like this. The only one I can think of that was successful was the HM-2 movement and that pedal is waaayyyy more fuckin popular than this amp. And the HM-2W doesn’t even actually exist yet! It’s just supposedly on the way.

    You’d have to have a decent amount of modern bands/players playing these amps (or similar clones/knock-offs), and praising them on social media and in interviews to get Marshall to even look in its direction.

    Bands that made them popular also left them in the dust. Didn’t meshuggah and Death both move on from these amps while they were still in production?
     
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    With Death they used this amp until the end, both guitarists. The last guitarist that playing with Death still has his as of the 2016 documentary, it's sitting behind him as he was being interviewed. It was $450 new, and it didn't sound like the other Valvestae amps, it was perfect for the type of music Death played IMO.
     
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    Huh, I thought they switched to Mesa. I stand corrected
     
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    I still have my 8200 from 1996. It has been to the repair shop a time or two for a faulty cap replacement and I installed one of those groove tubes in like early 2000's which was cool. Yeah I forget how cool that thing is and get surprised when I plug it in every few years. Cool to hear about them favorably on here.
     
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    I have owned a lot of gear but I have never tried to "copy" a rig before, the sound of this setup is just way too nostalgic though. It's very different than the boosted Dual Rectifier, Mesa cab stuff I have used.

     
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    To be fair, the 900 has a bunch of fans in the Alternative and Punk scenes, so I get having that one back in rotation. I say that as someone who generally doesn't like the 900 for anything. :lol:
     
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    forget the valvestate what we really need is the galien kruger 250ML
     
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    Just got an email from Paul Masvidal, he signed the petition. :woot:

    This is surreal...
     
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    Another video showing what the 8100 can do.

     
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    This amp sounds dry and shitlike when played really loud. It has got typical tendency to fart out with lower mids and lows. All remains is the buzzy top. Maybe with 4x12 it could sound good, but with 2x12 it was lacking balls and oomph. Combo was even worse...
     
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    I have definitely heard examples of the amp sounding thin, buzzy, and the first thing that comes to my mind is people forget these have tubes inside. In some cases they may still have the original tubes they were purchased with which could be over 25+ years later. When people use this amp I am convinced many think it is completely solidstate. Hybrid amps need good tubes, and like this particular amp model they are not easy to get to (chassis needs to be removed to get to them).

    With that said, I would never even mess with most hybrid amps, the 8100 was like a mistake because it sounds so much different than anything else that was supposed to be part of the same line of amps. I have heard of great results from tube preamps with solid state power amps before, some odd amps like the Dual Rectifier recording preamp, or Triaxis have had good results, so people say.

    I don's see a lot of people using tube poweramps with the Axe-FX, although it would make sense I just rarely, if ever see it.
     
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