6 string pickup shootout. No bull, no frills.

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  1. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    my current top 3:
    afwayu
    black heavens
    blackbird

    If you want a thicker/fuller sound, dominions are very good for that. same with the super distortion 3 or parallel axis distortion.
     
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    akinari SS.org Regular

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    Do the Dominions maintain a lot of clarity for stupid chords?
     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    yeah they have pretty good clarity. They're basically like a warmer/less sterile feeling titan/d-activator.
     
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    gunch Riff Chugman

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    If you ever got your hands on one would you ever test the Cepheus 6 passive just to see how it compares to a M6
     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    sure, but it'd be a while before I get to it.
     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    finally made the yt vids of the ratbucker bridge. There's 2 parts because my cat was meowing at me the whole time I tried to do the standard riffage, so I had to reshoot it :lol:

     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    Current lineup
    Elysian Hades Trident II ceramic set *currently installed*
    BL USA L500xl b
    Warman Quadrail b
    Guitarmory Atlas set
    dimarzio evo b
    dimarzio satchur8 b
    Blades Sorcerer b
    Mojotone Hornet b/Tomahawk n
    GFS Power Rails bridge
    Kent Armstrong Grinder b
    Dimebucker set
    Duncan Alpha/Omega set
    59/Custom Hybrid
    Duncan Nazgul
    Duncan Alt 8 b
    Duncan Black Winter/Nuclear Winter/Skadi (mag variations of blk winter) b
    Duncan Distortion b
    Duncan full shred b
    BKP Cold Sweat set
    BKP Alnico warpig
    BKP Miracle Man b
    BKP Rebel Yell b
    BKP True grit b
    BKP Brute Force b
    BKP Ceramic nailbomb b
    Entwistle Dark Star ND set
    Balaguer Feral/Evergreen set
    Dunable Grizzly set
    BLK/TRI Frost Giant
    Avedissian Railsplitter bridge
    Lace Dissonant Aggressors
     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    Thoughts on the Elysian Hades Trident II pickups : Anybody who's been on here for a while knows that I absolutely love Adam's pickups. He makes super high quality pickups that offer some really unique voicings with a lot of clarity on tap. The import line is definitely on par with the custom built stuff, as they retain the excellent clarity found in the custom line. The neck pickup is very smooth and mellow, which makes it great for doing shreddy leads or jazzy riffage or anything where the bridge is too biting. It's not quite capable of the flute like Eric Johnson type lead sounds I could get out of the cold sweat or dragonfire screamer neck, but then again very few pickups are good at that particular sound.
    The Trident II bridge is capable of doing basically anything from dirty blues/70s hard rock/80s hair metal and thrash all the way up to modern death metal/djent/whatever you need. The middle position isn't anything to write home about, but the set is overall very tonally versatile imo.
    The low end on the bridge pickup is full but still quite responsive, so you can chug and trem pick to your heart's content without having to worry about flub. The neck pickup is definitely thicker and much rounder sounding, but still stays responsive as well. The mids of the bridge have a nice growl to them almost reminiscent of lundgren M series, but with more upper mids as well. The high end of the bridge is present but not sparkly/piercing so even stupid extended chords/weird spider finger jazz chords ring out clearly. In terms of output the set isn't that hot compared to the afwayu, ratbucker or blackbird.

    DIs/Bonus Archetype Nolly clip of the Trident IIs:
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/yg6t00t3j38i7el/Elysian_Hades_Trident_II_DIs.zip/file
    YT Demo of the Trident IIs:

    I'll probably throw up a couple more clips with my other amps when I feel like it.


    Current lineup (BKP VHII and BLK/TRI Wildman added to list)
    Elysian Hades Trident II ceramic set *currently installed*
    BL USA L500xl b
    Warman Quadrail b
    Guitarmory Atlas set
    dimarzio evo b
    dimarzio satchur8 b
    Blades Sorcerer b
    Mojotone Hornet b/Tomahawk n
    GFS Power Rails bridge
    Kent Armstrong Grinder b
    Dimebucker set
    Duncan Alpha/Omega set
    59/Custom Hybrid
    Duncan Nazgul
    Duncan Alt 8 b
    Duncan Black Winter/Nuclear Winter/Skadi (mag variations of blk winter) b
    Duncan Distortion b
    Duncan full shred b
    BKP Cold Sweat set
    BKP VHII b
    BKP Alnico warpig
    BKP Miracle Man b
    BKP Rebel Yell b
    BKP True grit b
    BKP Brute Force b
    BKP Ceramic nailbomb b
    Entwistle Dark Star ND set
    Balaguer Feral/Evergreen set
    Dunable Grizzly set
    BLK/TRI Wildman
    BLK/TRI Frost Giant
    Avedissian Railsplitter bridge
    Lace Dissonant Aggressors
     
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    Iron1 Old School Blacksmith

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    Too funny you posted this last night, I just came looking to see if you had yet yesterday morning. Thx!

    Given the choice between one of these and a Black Winter, which would you choose for OSDM/Doom/Extreme metal?
     
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    Depends on what kind of sound you want. These can definitely get thick and gnarly if you want them to, but they have better clarity in the mids/highs compared to the blk winter and clean up better.
    They feel a lot lower output than the blk winter set so you can throw a lot more gain at them before they get mucky.
    The Blk winter bridge feels thicker and a bit hairier in the high end from the start so they work really well for Doom/ODSM/At The Gated or Entombed esque riffage. The blk winter neck is woodier/far less smooth comparatively.

    Both are excellent sets for metal in general, but the tridents can cover a lot more tonal ground ime.
     
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    Iron1 Old School Blacksmith

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    Thanks for the info. This is a good example of what I write:

    The Breaking (on Soundcloud)

    Although this was recorded using my HD500x and I've since graduated to a Helix Stomp which gives the guitars a much clearer sound.

    I've always been incredibly curious about the BWs and the Elysians, but only need one. And, I'm sure I could get most of, if not all, my money back out of a BW if I decided to sell it. Not so sure there would be a buyer for a used Elysian anytime soon... but, I tend to lean more towards the Elysian...
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    This fuss about the Trident IIs is making me want to swap the magnets on mine. Alnico 8 Tridents have too much mids and not enough sparkle for my taste. Maybe I'll put A5 or Ceramics and see how they behave.

    They're very fat and clear pickups, and sound fantastic for leads. Very versatile set, like a Sentient/Pegasus. With a very consistent sound from string to string. The A8s should slay on ash bolt-on guitars though. A5s should theoretically be more scooped.
     
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    I absolutey love my 7 String tii with ceramic magnet. Nice cutting highs, growly mids, but no mud. Also got several other sets from elysian. Great stuff
     
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    Would love to hear the L500XL and 59/Custom Hybrid next.
     
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    Ceramic mag would bump everything up, so I 'd say go down to A5.
    Well you're in luck, the L500XL is literally next on the list that I posted :lol:
    It'll be a while for the 59/custom though.
    Yeah all the variations of tridents are great, especially in 7+ string guitars.
     
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    Oh I had no idea they were written in order haha. Any chances you might try a Dimarzio Norton in the future? Very curious how that would sound in a baritone.
     
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    ehh maybe. I have a lot of pickups to get through first.
     
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