5 string bass? --that's not ugly lol. 35"? Canada

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  1. Merrekof

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    I was gonna recommend a Dingwall combustion 5...

    ..also, I agree that Ibanez does make ugly basses. The SRX was okay though
     
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    Sawweeet! I found that Sterling ray 35 in daphne blue used. I pulled the trigger. Should get it later this week or next. Saved around $350 in the process.

    @Merrekof I do like the combustions! They're just more than what I want to spend right now. I'm trying to keep a new bass on the mid range ish end so I can go for a Skervesen velociraptor 6 string too in the next few months. lol
     
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    Not huge, but 35" helps significantly.
    That is actually a significant improvement. The string is thinner but also longer, stiffness is roughly determined by gauge / length so you get a double advantage. Stiffness of big gauges is such an issue even a .005 reduction is tonally significantly helpful.
    It is important to make clear that it is absolutely not 'hype', and most of those who are posting about this are not claiming it is. It is a scientific fact.
    Extra scale length is the most effective tonal improvement for large gauges and low tunings.
    Yes but only very slightly higher. For 34"->35" the necessary slight increase in tension does not remotely undo the advantage.

    34" will not be a disaster, it is not absolutely essential. But ... 35" will help significantly, especially for tunings as low as Ab.
    Most 5 string basses are 35" anyway, for very good reason, so you can probably find something suitable for you in 35".
    Keep in mind that 34" is clearly problematically short for B, let alone lower pitches and larger gauges. 34" was chosen by Fender for E.

    I am disappointed in seeing so much misleading and excessively anti-scale length talk from those who know better =)
     
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  4. thebeesknees22

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    well now ya tell me lol

    I already bought the 34" scale!

    haha
     
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  5. thebeesknees22

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    Shazaam!

    It came in today! It's pretty awesome especially for the price. Got it used for $1199 CAD (before tax).

    I most definitely need beefier strings on this though. The ones that are on here aren't quite cutting it at drop G#. (no idea what gauge is on this right now. probably a standard light set)

    I probably should have waited until tomorrow to post pics when the sun is out since the lighting in my apartment is so yellow, but...whatever. Here it is:



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    I agree with you on a lot of basses just being ugly looking now days. I had thought long and hard about a sterling 5 string. And while they are great basses I just don't like the neck shape. For me at least this is the bass I'm leaning towards right now.
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  7. Winspear

    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    Looks nice! I recommend you pick up the D'addario 107 gauge balanced 4 string set and their single 160 for drop G# and see what you think.
    Re. above discussion, it's not 'hype', certainly every little extra scale length helps and does make a tonal improvement - but there seems to be a divide often drawn that 34" 'can't' and 35" 'can' when the difference isn't really huge (a considerably smaller difference than tuning a 35" a semitone lower and capoing it at fret 1)
     
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    Not to derail too much, but Tom what are your scale and string recommendations for F#?
     
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    I like it! A tort or pearl pick guard might look good on that color.

    If the strings currently on it are in decent shape, you might be able to get by just replacing the low B (Ab) for a while since the other strings are only going down a half step. At least that’s what I’d do because I’m a little cheap. :D If you’re going to do some serious recording definitely get a good fresh set.
     
  10. John

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    Late to the conversation, but I've been a fan of Lakland. I have a 5514 with a 35" scale, for example:

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    Alternatively, if you don't mind the wait or in lieu of other crazy good deals, Maruszcyk (based in Poland) can make 35" scaled basses on a build-to-order basis.

    https://www.public-peace.de/maruszczyk-instruments/mi-bass
     
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    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    Definitely 37" at that point if possible, ~174 is nice imo
     
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  12. thebeesknees22

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    You read my mind!


    @John - nice! what's the little switch for on that?

    This sonic blue one from Maruszcyk looks awesome
    https://www.public-peace.de/maruszczyk-instruments/mi-bass/jazzus

    bah! here's my seafoam green one. Man... I want this lol
    https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/MARUSZCZYK_Jake_C4P_Sea_Foam_Green_32.html
     
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    Thanks, it's a coil selector switch.
     
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    I've been jamming on my new Ibanez EHB1005ms (c.f., post #9, this thread), and I preeeeetty much love it. It turns out that bass is fun af so that'll be part of it, but overall this thing seems about what you'd expect for $1.2k except for the ridiculous figuring of the roasted birdseye board. It also weighs very slightly less than the lightest guitar in my 6-strong arsenal, which is nice.

    The first track that needs real bass is one that requires a semi-tone bend on the 2nd fret disallowed by some heinous toolmarks on said fret, and I'm getting some strange static in the signal that must be either EM interference (that doesn't affect my guitars) or else something to do with the wiring of this thing. I've also had a wee bit of tuning instability, but that's likely to do with the 50-145 [Stringjoy custom] set I just put on here without widening the lower two nut slots. The bridge and nut accepted the 145 with room to spare, in case that's useful for anyone.

    As another aside, I find myself losing my place pretty often, and I think the lack of distinction between the fret inlays/side dots and the medium-hue neck&board may be implicated. It being my first bass and first multiscale instrument are as well, but I'm still suspicious of these markers.

    Anyway, overall I'm happy with it so far. I'm impressed by the elegant engineering of the bridge pieces, although I have only guitar bridges to compare.
     
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    damn..... I bought a .160 bass string for my low G# string and the bridge string hole on this Sterling isn't big enough to push to very end to the ball of the string. It gets juuuust a bit too thick near the end. I guess I'll have to try a .154...

    lame!
     
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    So it’s snagging up on an extra-thick part of the string near the ball? A taperwound string should solve that problem.

    Alternatively, take the bridge off and slightly widen the hole with a reamer or drill bit. It’s a non-reversible mod but a nearly invisible one. Just make sure the hole doesn’t get wider than the ball.
     
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    yeah it's snagging. I tried filing it down some, but it was taking forever so I gave up lol. I may go find a proper file at home depot this weekend.

    The hole is on the metal part of the bridge on this particular one so it would have to be a drill for sure. I'm not quite ready to do that to this just yet since I just bought it. (even though I've been on a huge modding kick on some of my guitars) lol

    I have a .145 string on order just in case but I have a feeling I won't like it. It was the only thing that didn't cost a fortune. The only .154 (or anything in between a .145 and .160) I could find was a kalium string that would have cost me like $45 or more to ship to Canada. :| ...so I ain't doin that lol

    I'll do some digging for a taperwound! Hopefully they don't cost $50 to ship to canada for one string too lol
     
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    whew ok found a tapered one on amazon. Ordered! thanks @LordIronSpatula ! lol
     
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    D'addario XLB145T is the model name, should be easy enough to find from various places these days :)
     
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