432 Hz

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  1. olsta

    olsta SS.org Regular

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    Fellow brothers and sisters

    It is my honour to present this information to you.

    432Hz

    Its true, it does sound and feel better, brighter (yet a bit lower) , sustains more.

    I implore you, if you have a tuner that goes to 432 Hz, please try it.

    My 7 came to life. clean or distorted to hell, it doesnt matter.
     
  2. ibznorange

    ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Contributor

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    Hrm. i actually use 444hz, just cause i sorta did it by accident, and it stuck :shrug:
    ill try it out sometime. i dunno if it will make a huge difference though :shrug:
     
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    cool stuff, I'll get a better tuner sometime and check it out
     
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    My tuner goes to 432Hz. I'm going to try it out later.
     
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    I definitely support the idea of being free to experiment with tunings and changing your reference pitch.

    If tuning down to 432 sounds better to anyones taste they should go for it.

    But the reasons given on that site are utter nonsense to me.


    Again, if whoever wrote this finds these subjective qualities to be true for them then fine, but claiming those qualities are universal is nonsense imo.
     
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    I agree with Durero, that is very subjective. To each their own, but this wouldn't work when playing with synth instruments or standard piano.

    Mind controlling 440Hz conspiracy theory anyone?:nuts:
     
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    NegaTiveXero .... Your Face! Contributor

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    What if I don't want my music to be warm and relaxing?

    Besides, I listened to that crappy Bobby dude's music that they links to and it kinda made me feel angry, not relaxed.
     
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    DefinedInSilere Well-Known Member

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    We hear A as 440 and 432 seems a bit flat to our ears. I think some hear this and think about it too hard. This link was really cool though. Summary

    anyone here about the violinist playing sub-harmonics?
     
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    Durero, my thoughts exactly. youre just way more vocal about it :lol:
    its really like tuning, and being a bit flat is all. i dont see how it would make a huge difference. Other than it just sounding better to your ear (i prefer the sound of a C# ot that of an E), i dont see there being an actual resonance difference. I mean, the resonant peaks of 2 similar pieces of mahogany vary enough to make that non viable
     
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    Durero, I agree 100%.

    I thought that what the guy was saying was absolute nonsense. If you prefer 432 to 440, then use it, but don't believe that guy's rambling:

    :orly:
     
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    thats fair enough,

    just spreading the knowledge amigos :shred:

    432 is the natural resonance of the body (and other things), 440 hz is not liked by many singers because over time 440 can tear vocal chords, many opera singers sing in 432 as it is the natural pitch.

    Stradivarius violins were crafted to 432 hz.
     
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    What I would like to hear is the A=432 hz reference pitch used in an aggressive, fast, heavy (read: metal) context. All the clips I have listened to have been mellow styles and it worked fine for those, but how does it work in a heavy and aggressive context? That's what I want to know.
     
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    - Music

    there you go bud, Lacuna coil is on there
     
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    That wasn't exactly what I had in mind...:lol: dark yes, but that's in a sludgier gothic sense, not what I was really talking about. My gut instinct would be that this 432 reference wouldn't be as effective or noticable on more aggressive faster songs.
     
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    yeah its noticeable even on ear melting distortion and multiple guitars.

    lol sorry that was the only link that didnt have mellow music on it
     
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    FWIW, Candlemass' first disc was Eb where A=423. (Twenty three, i'm not typoing)
     
  17. Durero

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    With respect for your enthusiasm for this tuning olsta - I love seeing musicians (and people in general) questioning given standards and exploring alternatives - I don't buy the reasons you're listing here. But again, if you simply prefer 432Hz to anything else that's totally cool :yesway:

    Who's body and which body part? I can't think of any examples of physical resonance in the body which would be the same frequency in two different people.

    Yes 440 is a tiny bit higher than 432 so it could be a tiny bit harder on vocal chords when singers are singing at the top of their range, but by that reasoning anything lower than 432 would be even better.

    How is it natural?

    Stradivarious far predated any pitch standardization and fixed pitch instruments from that time (organs, pitchpipes) have been found to vary anywhere from 380Hz - 480Hz, do you know of any evidence for this claim?


    The linked articles in this thread mention Rudolph Steiner (Rudolf Steiner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) as being a proponent of 432Hz. If Steiner said 432Hz is good for some kind of mystical reasons then I'm open to that idea, even if only because I've experienced first-hand the products of the type of farming he developed (bio-dynamic) and he certainly knew what he was doing in that area. :yum:
     
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    ^Another excellent post by Durero. :agreed: Good points on everything.

    There is nothing magical about 432 Hz. Also, 432 Hz is only the designation for one note. Does making the A above middle C 432 Hz suddenly make all notes relative to that mystically beautiful?

    And, if 432 Hz is the "natural resonance of the body," then I guess the body only resonates when you play the A above middle C at 432 Hz.
     
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    Given that guitars all have different construction, made from different woods etc, it is INCREDIBLY unlikely that they all resonate at 432hz. I think the original poster needs to look into resonant frequencies.
     
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    darren Decibel Guitars Forum MVP

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    I highly doubt that ANY instrument can be "built to resonate at XXX Hz". If your instrument was designed to resonate at a particular frequency, that one note would either sound amazing or shit.
     
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