1/4 of a step down

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  1. ChaNce

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    When a song is mastered, you don't necessarily put the whole album on a single tape, you do each song separately and then aggregate, thus the chance of accidentally speeding up a few songs.

    Remember, this was WAY before Pro Tools and hard drives. And if you don't know about how fickle tape machines are (and the amazing things that happen when you mess with speed, touch the reels, etc), head over to Gearslutz and search. The old-school sound engineers have tons of tricks to make cool sounds using reel-to-reel tapes.

    IIRC, Megadeth tuned down a quarter step as well on some of their earlier albums.
     
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    I thought it had something to do with the reel to reel recording they used to have before all this digital stuff. Even cassette tapes change slightly in pitch as you listen due to the variations of the reel size and how worn out the motors were in your player..
     
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    There's a few orchestras who tune differently to match whatever standard tuning was when a particular piece was written.
     
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    That is basically what I am saying. As R2R machines wear out, Or if they are not very good, or if they aren't calibrated properly, or if the tape is wound too tight... any of these can screw up the speed.
     
  5. eaeolian

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    Knowing Leif, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

    I've played on albums/demos that were off from 440. Before the Boss TU-12, I very seldom saw electronic tuners, even at shows - bands would tune to each other before they went on.

    Dinosaurs would occasionally wander by, too...
     
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    Gene Hoglan isn't that big.
     
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    Heh - tying this in with Megadeth: I saw Dark Angel open for 'Deth on the "Peace Sells" tour, and Gene was standing on stage talking back to the soundman after putting together his rented drum set that was missing parts. (The board was in a loft-type balcony at the Bayou in DC). Someone yells from the crowd "Hey Gene - don't stage dive".

    He totally lost it. :lol:
     
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    :rofl:

    For those of you not from DC, the stage at the Bayou was about four feet high.
     
  9. grim tr00 kvlt

    grim tr00 kvlt Bleed the Freak

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    From the Dimebag Riffer Madness book:
    "We're already down something like a quarter of a step to begin with, because of this, when we tune to E we're really just a C-hair sharper than D#. So, when we tune down a whole step to D, we're really nearer to C#."
    His guitar tech:
    "To us, E is really D# plus 40 cents on the Korg DTR-1 tuners we use, so, D is really C# plus 40 cents, and so on"
     
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    Strange tuning.

    A seller the other day said me "this guitar it's half semitone droped."

    WTF!

    He was talking about a RG that was tuned Eb.
     

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