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Oct 17, 1970 (Age: 50)
Bowen Island, Canada
Professional Music Teacher since 1990

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    1. jack_cat
      Hey Durero: my new 9-str fanned classical is getting built.
      Jack's Fanned Fret 9-string Harp Guitar Project
      hoo ah -
    2. jack_cat
      let me try that again. Thanks for your encouraging feedback about the string lengths. I was up all night playing my cardboard cutout. :shred:

      I am dubious about the width of the fingerboard. My prototype was 68 mm or 2 & 5/8 inches a hair fat, at the nut; it was apparently not out of line with what other folks are using on ELECTRICS but I found it impossible for CLASSICAL and converted the prototype 9 to an 8. I am now working with a drawing with the fingerboard 80mm wide, or 3-1/8", and am considering whether to slim it down to 76mm or 3" even, which I think is the slimmest that I might find playable, giving an average 8.5mm from string center to center at the nut.

      more to come...

    3. jack_cat
      But you guys with electrics go much thinner than this, right? How do you manage, or is it just a question of getting used to it? I perceived the possibility of learning to deal with the close-set strings, but having a regular gig playing a guitar with regular classical spacing - which is what the 80mm would give me - made it impossible to switch back and forth and I passed a whole year of frustration with it before I packed it in and took the low F# string off of the prototype. Anyway, this is the point I am struggling with at this moment.

    4. jack_cat
      Hello Durero,
      I'm busy drawing my next nine string (F# B E A D g b e a ) fanned fret classical. As with last time, agonizing over the specs. Main fear: it will be too big to play! However, the prototype of two years ago at 22" to 26 & 3/4" was not too big to play and in fact gets a little tight in the upper frets. The low F# didn't sound - string too fat and made severe clicking sounds on the frets.

      Most optimum, I think for new fan may be 23-5/8" to 28-3/8" in terms of sound of the strings; this is still a 4-3/4 fan but an inch and a quarter longer overall.

      On the other hand, to reduce the fan I could go
      24-3/8 to 28-3/8 (which makes the high A string pretty maxed out)
      or 23-5/8 to 27-1/2, which makes the low F# only 3/4" longer than the previous which was unsatisfactory.

      Being an extremist, I want it all in terms of range!

      Have an opinion? Thanks.
    5. axiomIII
      could I get some help? here is the post...

      The Seven String Guitar Authority - SevenString.org
    6. jack_cat
      Hey Durero, Would you care to share your thoughts on your possible design of an extended range nylon string? I was thinking about an 8, and since exchanging posts with Ethereal Entity find that I am actually considering a fanned 9-string. Totally a acoustic classical thing, intend to use a condenser mic. I´m psyched and also a little freaked out - way out of the classical comfort zone here.

      - jack
    7. Erazoender
      Haha not by me, but possibly by Sam :)
    8. ElRay
      I thought Raven was DIY. Definitely looking forward to the results from your class.
    9. ElRay
      Busy day to day for posts. Here's another you might want to chime-in on: What Is Your Biggest Guitarist Habit Pet Peeve?

      There's a comment against singing the notes you're playing.

    10. ElRay
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    12. John Strieder
      John Strieder
      Ligeti rules.
    13. Stealthdjentstic
    14. ixlramp
      Hi Leo! Just seen your message on my profile :cool:
      I just love your Raven 7 design, and even more now I know it's ultra-long scale.

    15. Stealthdjentstic
      No problem, I'm like an ERG RSS feed.
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    19. soliloquy
      hows it going?
    20. Stealthdjentstic
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    Oct 17, 1970 (Age: 50)
    Bowen Island, Canada
    Professional Music Teacher since 1990
    Primary Seven:
    Raven 7 - my design
    Main Rig:
    Axe-FxII, 2 Bose PAS
    Real Name:
    Leo Pedersen
    Primary ERG:
    Ergo10, Ergo9, StickBass8
    Sevenstring Guitars:
    1990 Ibanez UV7PW #361, Raven 7-string 31-fret 5 octave prototype with self-made multi-channel pickup system.
    Other Guitars:
    Ataraxia RG, Ergo 10, Ergo 9, Chapman StickBass 8, Steinberger TransTrem 6, Steinberger Bass TransTrem 4, Kubicki EX-Factor 4 Bass, Warmoth 6, Bunker 6, Raimundo Classical 6, Vincete-Sanchez Flamenco 6, Takamine Classical 6
    3x Fractal Audio Axe-FxII, 2x Bose PAS L1 Model2, Carvin TS100, Digitech VGS 2112 with 2120 mod, Digitech 2101LTD Gold with Control One, Digitech RP20, Korg Pandora
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    Palmer ADG 04 Speaker Simulator & Load Box
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    2x Bose PAS L1 Model 2 with B2's
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