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Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Cyanide_Anima, Jun 20, 2007.
Arab Woman Takes On Muslim Cleric Video
the vid speaks for itself.
"I am not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it."
"We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant."
She is awesome.
yeah, she is. i have total respect for someone like her. she is very wise, and repects other peoples beliefs and ideas, and because of that, some extremeist muslims are going to want to kill her after that. especially a woman with an open mind and the will to speak it so freely. they will see her as westernized. i bet she is scared to death.
Title's a touch misleading, bro - just because she's Arab doesn't mean she's religious, as she's pretty clearly an athiest.
There's many people thinking like her.
The problem is we don't hear them out as much as every religion's extremists. Why? It's less spectacular.
it could just be an American thing to slap labels on everyone, as it's pretty much assumed that all Arabic peoples are Musilum, Indians are Hindi's, Italians and Spanish are Catholic, etc, but then again, we are only human
and besides, you can find women like that here in America. i did . my girlfriend is a fullblown Catholic, and even teaches the wednesday night CCD classes at her church. i'm an athiest, and have pretty much sworn off any and all forms of collective church.
oh yeah, she's conservative, too
...and, she voted for Bush (both times).
Brilliant woman. I love how she says, "We're not facing a clash of religions or of civilizations but a clash between two eras, between mentality that belongs in the Middle Ages and mentality that belongs in the 21st Century".
She is deemed 100% true
Exactly - "empty vessels make most noise".
err, by the thread title, it i meant it more as why religious people couldn't be more like-minded as her, as in respecting other people's beliefs, and not forcing crap onto people. i'm not great with words, rofl. especially for the johovah's witnesses, and mormons. i get mugged by those people at the bus stops constantly here. they just don't take no for an answer. sometimes i tell them i'm a satanist and eat babies just so they fuck off and leave us alone. rofl. i don't do that stuff, of course. im not a religious person, nor am i an athiest. somewhere in-between i guess. rofl.
Keep saying no, starting politely, and getting subsequently more forceful, until they get the point. I have closed doors in faces before, simply because someone would just not shut up. I've found that, "I'm not interested in your religion, or any religion, and I'd appreciate it if you stop wasting my time with something that I am going to give absolutely no consideration to," is both polite and straight to the point. If they insist on continuing, then, "What part of 'I'm not interested in your stupid cult' did you not understand?" is usually enough to scare away even the most determined missionary.
As a side note, I find it grossly irresponsible and sadly pathetic that Mormon church sends teenagers out soliciting religion. Rudeness aside, it can be flat out dangerous knocking on a stranger's door, and I would NEVER allow my son or daughter to take part in such an activity.
Agnostic. It's the "undecided/not sure" of the religious world.
when they die, they go on to The Great Perhaps
i've always enjoyed my conversations with those trying to convert me. they try to explain to me that some weird god loves me, and that we should all just love eachother, otherwise we'll burn for an eternity. i tell them that the universe doesn't give a fuck about you, back it up with facts, and tell them that you should love one another just because.
they are usually the ones walking away frustrated
If that is the case, why do all of god's followers always seem to be so pissed off and hateful?
they're not very flexible on terms of worship
That was one of the best things I've seen.
I love how the cleric was just blubbering on about her being wrong and the prophet and shit, but she just kept right on with the keep-your-nose-out-of-my-business shtick.
I hope that's what you meant to say
Getting pissed off and hateful about it if he isn't isn't really the best way to make a point, bro...
God's followers don't even know His name. They forgot it on purpose thousands of years ago so that they could not take it in vain. I would be pissed and hateful too if I had to follow a complete stranger or spend an eternity in torment while others could just go about their lives perfectly content not being the chosen ones.
Good points in the original post 'n' stuff.
When those people come to my door, I just say immediately, "Oh, but I already have a Bible" and usually they get stopped in their tracks there for a few seconds. Oftentimes this is followed by, "Would you take a pamphlet?" and I say, "No, thank you. I'm really not interested." If that doesn't work, I've said, "Okay," taken the pamphlet, said "goodbye," shut the door, and then thrown the pamphlet in the garbage without opening it up.
One time I really liked was when I was getting ready for work, the doorbell rang and I was just getting ready to leave, so I wasn't going to go to the door. About a minute later, I left and the lady was getting ready to knock on one of my neighbor's doors. She looked up and said, "Oh, you're going somewhere?" and I just said, "Yep" and walked right past her and down the stairs.
I really don't have time for their nonsense.
One time I was waiting for a friend and got approached by a Jehovah's Witness lady (clearly spaced out mentally) and she tried giving me a WatchTower magazine. I said, "Oh, you're a Jehovah's Witness! You should take part in the government plan for witnesses. It's called the Federal Witness Relocation Program. Yeah, they move you into a house and the government pays the rent and utilities!" She got all excited and said, "Really!? Wow, I have to take part in that!"