Where Do You Stand On Gun Control/Second Amendment?

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Where Do You Fall On Gun Control

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  1. Drew

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    And yet, this is precisely the attitude that the most powerful lobbying group in this country has taken and continues to take.

    Broken record here, but the main reason I want to see the 2nd Amendment repealed is not because I want to ban private ownership of guns - I don't - but because I don't think we can have a sensible, adult, and productive conversation about even limited and targeted gun control policies like universal background checks to close the private seller loophole, when gun advocates are going to continue to bury their head in the sand and say "but, my rights!" whenever any new proposals are made, however modest.
     
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    But @Drew , before you can repeal the Second Amendment, you have to get two thirds of congress to agree to do it, which will only happen if you can have a sensible productive conversation about it. It's a chicken-egg problem, really.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Don't worry, people will still see the threeper shirts, 5.11 pants and giant holster print-over-gut to know to stay away.

    Reminds me of this: https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/03/05/why-its-hard-for-conservatives-to-date-in-dc-right-now/

    It's almost like being a shitgoblin makes people not want to be around you. :lol:
     
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    There goes that baby when all you had to do was drain the bathtub...
     
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    what I don't get about 2nd amendment is it references a well organized miltia doesn't it ?

    it me that is implying some controls on it
     
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    Get out of here with that logic.

    Update: There has now been 11 mass shootings since MSD. Ten deaths, 37 injured. So 41 incidents so far this year. It's only March.
     
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    Not if you ask the NRA, who emblazons in their headquarters lobby:
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    Odd, that... if it's such an important amendment, why display only part of it?

    I think my point here is when you have the most powerful lobbying group in this country telling you under no condition may you drain the bathtub, maybe it's time we start talking more desperate measures.

    ...and if you get anywhere close to a 2/3 majority, suddenly gun advocates will start shitting themselves and come to the negotiating table in a hurry. Either way, I like the outcome.
     
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    Probably because they are mostly religious as well. If there's anything Christians love as much as murder and child molestation, it's taking little snippets of bible verses out of context and using them as proof that Jesus is on their side of an argument.
     
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    Catholics aren't Christian. They're more like a twisted, weird, fucked up cult parading as a legitimate religion.
     
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    We'll see how long they have power. Membership is flat and bad enough they won't publish real numbers and their biggest patrons are failing with S&W, Ruger and Remington in financial turmoil.
     
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    That sounds pretty Christian to me.
     
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    You could insert any denomination and it would be true. Organized religion in general is what blocks forward progress of humanity.
     
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    Easy there, I was raised Roman Catholic. :lol:
    I don't categorically agree with your second sentence, but your first, yeah. All faith systems look pretty cult-y from the outside. And I say that living in Red Sox territory! :lol:

    PS - wait until next year!
     
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    My apologies, Drew. :(
     
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    No worries man, like I said, I was raised roman catholic. :lol: I appreciate your saying that, but especially since you had no way of knowing that at the time, I wasn't offended.
     
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    I was raised Pentecostal and that shit never looked normal lol.
     
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    Oh okay, that's good then.
     
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    I once dated a girl who described it as a lot of rolling around on the ground and speaking in tongues. To her credit, she laughed when I said I would have thought rolling on the floor and yelling "oh my god" was exactly her sort of thing. :lol:
    Hey, while I appreciate this new, nicer you, good natured ball-busting is still totally cool provided the intent is not to be an asshole, man. I share a name with a serial killer, I've gotten worse. :lol:
     
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    I was pretty sure that the semantic difference between a cult and a religion is simply the number of adherents. Like, when speaking of Christianity before it made it big, I'm pretty sure it's referred to as a cult. At least academically.
     
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    I thought you were cool as long as they didn't break out the kool-aid?
     
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