What's the longest scale ERG you've played? Anyone play anything over 30"?

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  1. PBC

    PBC Composition Ontology

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    Would you guys care to elaborate on Cycfi pickups. I'm not entirely sure of all the systems that these pickups can come with. My initial reading of his blogs gets me into geek overdrive even though I'm still wrapping my head around some of the concepts. The Nu multi are individual string pickups that can be arranged in any shape right?

    His concept of virtual pickups feel like just a matter of when not if:[​IMG]

    I feel that it's only a matter of time until there become pickup sims akin to Axe Fx and Kemper. Where you select something like Invader for a certain rhythm part, then switch to a PAF Pro for lead, and then like an Aftermath for the bridge. Obviously that's overkill but similar idea.

    Durero, could a full bucker take the place of a sliding rails system?
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    Stacked single coils or buckers from the very edge of the bridge until the end of the fretboard? Then via software or foot controller you could activate which coils would be active on the guitar (patches from software). It wouldn't be as precise as a rails system since there would be minor spaces between the poles, but might be a compromise?
     
  2. Winspear

    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    Is that overkill? A lot more has occured to me :D Such as a different pickup model for the treble strings etc. Haha, the possibilities are endless and it's very exciting. I can't wait to see Joels' software.

    Cycfi:
    -They all sound the same, full flat response. Aside from humbucker size picking up a wider area which results in a naturally bigger tone
    -XR are your regular mono pickups
    -The regular looking controls are for switching and tone functions as normal but with more control
    -Nu are single string to a multipin output. They can be grouped onboard but not necessarily recommended due to added noise
    -Nexus is the breakout box for the multipin cable to output each string on a jack
    -CV controls on the guitar would be used for Nu, output via the Nexus also. These can be used to control anything like pan, EQ etc via MIDI
    -Nu Duo isn't released and might not be for the above reason, they are for simpler two channel setups i.e. treble and bass groups of strings (to a stereo cable I think? May be wrong. Though it would certainly be possible)
    -There is an upcoming blade pickup configuration for fan frets, custom string spacing etc without having to worry about string position
     
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    The Cycfi stuff is basically a blank slate for tone, limited only by your imagination. It helps tremendously that he's working on additional resources that compliment it, including polyphonic tone shaping and effects processing. I'm just waiting for the Infinity system at this point...
     
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    The longest scale I ever played was a Crescent bass which was like 42" or maybe lower than that but the longest scale on a ERG Guitar is a 28" scale 9 string. I am thinking about getting a 30" 9 string or maybe 10 string (probably not 10 string though)
     
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    It's a simple 3 channel Humbucker custom made by Aaron Armstrong from Armstrong pickups. 1 channel for the 7th string, 1 for the 6th string and 1 for the top 5 strings. Each channel can be humbucking or coil tapped. The coils are really crammed in there and output is great. Separation is excellent.

    No hexaphonic pickup in there..just the Armstrong in the bridge and a Black Hawk in the neck
     
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    This is not me, but this is my idea of an ERG, 34" scale and that classic-Meshuggah type clarity and tone.
    It's an 8 string touch guitar by http://www.touchguitars.com/
    The standard tuning is Fripp / Guitar Craft extended 'New Standard Tuning': fifths with a minor third and tone on top, from 1 semitone below 5 string bass B to a tone below guitar top E:
    Bb F C G D A C D

     
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    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    And that clarity with that pickup placement :O
     
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    I have zero interest in playing tap style, but that's pretty cool. I've considered getting a tapper, and just stringing it and playing it traditionally. I still think it would be even cooler fanned to 30" on the high side. That would be killer!
     
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    I have a Kalium .118 guitar string tuned to G#0 on my Agile Intrepid 828 (28.625") right now and it sounds and feels good to me! :D
     
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    Seriously? I have have zero idea how that's working for you. And here I thought I had a light touch! That's less than 15 lbs. I have a .142" at 30", and I'm still not happy. I'm going to .151" next.
     
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    I kinda don't know how it's working for me either after hearing you guys and what you use. I must just have a really light touch, so it feels tight to me, lol. I do have a video I made doing a G# minor descending run from G#2 to G#0, but it was just with my old digital camera's video mode, as that's the only thing I have to capture video ATM, and it's just 480x360 using the MJPEG Codec (however I did replace the crappy camera mic audio (8bit 16khz mono LOL) with the actual amp output (16bit 44.1khz mono) that I also simultaneously recorded when I recorded the video, and it does sound way better), plus the lighting in my room isn't really set up for video recording (it's very dim), so the quality isn't even as good as most camera phones are (but it's still good enough to see what's going on). Also I didn't have a good place to put the camera to record myself, I had to hang it from the side of my rack, and my guitar cable is partially obscuring the view of my playing. And then on top of that, I don't even have a Youtube channel yet to upload it to so I can post it here! But I intend to, and when I finally do, I'll post the video here for you to see.
     
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