I thought it might be interesting for us to talk about ideas normally associated with the "left" or "right" group we tend to identify with that we don't personally agree with. For example: I'd say that in general, I'm a liberal. I'm very much for socialized health care single payer system, taxing churches, cutting down rich folk, racial integration, switching to renewables, etc. But one notion I don't agree with is taking away hunting rifles and shotguns. I'm not a hunter. Also, I've never been hunting. I've never killed an animal excluding insects and fish--and I ate the fish so that doesn't count in my book. But barring like animal torture or mass slaughter or anything that would harm a delicate ecosystem, I don't have any real problem with other people hunting and killing animals. Even cute ones. What does that make me? Anyhow, that's not really why I want those things legal--rather, I just think we ought to be allowed to have guns. For the same reason as the second amendment, and for reason that in a disaster situation you never know what can happen. When Katrina hit New Orleans that city was a friggin apocalypse style brutal rape festival. Or like, if we got invaded by aliens. You can't definitely tell me that wont happen. Handguns are no good, for the reason that they're concealable. A gun holds a level of deadliness that has no reason to be hid. If you're going to use a gun, everyone should know that you're going to use it before you use it, barring like black ops missions and James Bond type scenarios. If you want to tote around a gun day and night to compensate for either your manhood or your inability to afford rent on a safe block, then it should be 3 feet long and you should strap it onto your back. Don't you suppose that would scare away the crooks to begin with? And also you'd know whether some thug was packing so you don't even walk past that alleyway. I don't have a gun, but since I moved to Chicago a couple years ago I've been really thinking about getting one. But for the principle reasons I've stated, I don't want a handgun. I'm thinking about getting a rifle. I also believe that a rifle would be more difficult for a child to understand and operate, probably causing a reduction in cases of children accidentally using firearms. But I am pulling that out of my ass, by the way. I think some people would be spooked to see a big ol' gun, but that's naive; they should be more spooked right now because they've got no idea who is and is not packing. I used to live in Japan, where there was NO guns. It was very nice to feel safe even walking through a city park at night. Even if I got jumped, it's doubtful that I'd end up in a morgue if there are no firearms involved. I can't begin to fathom the variety of sociological reasons why homogeneous societies like Japan or Iceland are almost totally non-violent... but America is not that way, and I can't imagine a scenario where we're able to become that way. I didn't make this thread to specifically talk about guns. Unless you want to; are there any opposites of me? Righty-tighties that want to make guns illegal?? This is for any issue that you don't agree with the majority of the group you either self-identify with or are categorized under by default.