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  1. The906

    The906 Hella rad Contributor

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    Container ships of Ripits in the AOR bro.
    I can only do the unfizzy, sluggable Monster Tea variety. Everything else is battery acid.
    Also do the caffeinne/electrolyte tablets in water.
     
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    tedtan SS.org Regular

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    This is true as long as you eat an equal number of grams of each (well, less than 2x as many grams of carbs than of fats). The problem with that, though, is that 1) fat fills you up and simple carbs do not, and 2) eating sugar makes you want to eat more sugar, whereas eating fat does not make you want to eat more fat. Because of this, it is really easy to eat 3+ times the calories of simple carbs than of fat, and end up eating more total calories than if you had eaten fat.

    This isn't really an issue for people in a good state of health (you'll burn the extra calories off working, working out, etc.), but it is a big part of why overweight people are overweight.
     
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  3. KnightBrolaire

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    Which is part of why people should eat more complex carbs like squash/sweet potatoes/rye bread, etc as replacements for simpler carbs. They allow you to still get a certain amount of carbs but don't give you big spikes and you stay full longer.
    It's weird, even when the PX carried monster I just preferred ripits. I still buy a couple here and there at the dollar store for shits and giggles
     
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    Im not saying to replace one with the other. Just saying that both are equally bad and equaly full of sugar. How many people you know that eat a yogurt because "its healthy and/or Im trying to loose weight", but you would never hear then say the same while eating an icecream. Or people who would use a yogurt with cereal as breakfast too

    I used to eat one or two granola bars in the morning, plus a drink we have here call "Up and Go" which is like a protein shake, and with the ocational (almost daily) can of Mother (best energy drink). Mostly because I eneded to drive 1.5 hours each morning and didnt had the time to sit down to eat. Plus Ive never been much of a breakfast eater all my life, I always preffer the extra min of sleep lol..... So yeah I eat it that because "it supposed to be healty", later down the track when I elarned about the suggar, I find out how much I was taking with those. So pretty much I had my daily intake gone by the morning lol. And then I wondered why I put around 15kg over 1.5 years (also a lifestyle of activity vs sitdown all day didnt help either)

    ...aaaaaaand a small adiction to doritos/chips, which is still something Im in a constant battle with today..... I manage to loose a bunch of weight over 2-3 months due to small food change and lots of active stuff.... things happened and I put everything back on over the next couple of months, and even more since now my gym belt (fixed lenght) doesnt fits me anymore :( at least I ahvent lost much muscle since Im still lifting same weights from before I stopped... jsut the "next day pain" is back lol

    fuck being mid 30's...... I miss my 19-21's when I could eat a whole plate of pasta for two each night and still loose weight

    yarp!! coffe taste horrible, I cant even stand the smell of it. I kinda get why people "need it" since I was adicted to energy drinks. But now in my 35's I could hapily say "you do NOT need coffe"
     
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  5. p0ke

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    Yeah, I fight that battle too every time I go to a grocery store :lol: The bags of chips/crisps/whatever you wanna call them just shout "eat meeeeee" as I walk past them. I'm using my wife as an excuse not to buy those though - I've forced myself to believe she's the one not allowing me to buy them, and that makes it a lot easier.
     
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    Is it unpopular to not really like most chips? I find that I snack on things like chips, not because I like the chips, but because I like the act of snacking. Nuts on the other hand... any kind of nut, things that aren't even technically nuts.... the best. Definitely tend to overdo those.
     
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    Only potato chip I tend to eat is the Baked Lays ones, just the regular yellow bag, nothing even fancy. If it's not those, any other chip can go screw really. I have a vivid memory of hanging out with friends, and they did the usual "I really can never just have one," to which I proceeded to eat literally one for the whole night and they hated my restraint.

    Flamin Hot Cheetos though? Boy, look out.
     
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    I find most cheese puff snacks to be.... less than good.
     
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    lurè Thy Art Is Mambo

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    I really enjoy using the tone knob and playing around with It.
    One of my favorite tones is playing leads with neck pickup and tone knob all closed or half open.
     
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    Oh, definitely.

    I'm just thinking in terms of this thread where people are talking about their coworkers picking up fast food, or a box of frozen pizza rolls, or a bag of chips for lunch. The chips should be obvious, but how many people think about the fast food "meal"? White bread bun (instantly converted to sugar), ketchup/dressing/secret sauce (sugary), fries/tater tots/chips (almost instantly converted to sugar) cooked in trans fats, fake processed "cheese" (probably made of trans fats), low quality meat with many additives, everything doused in a ton of salt and washed down with an extra large 32 oz soda (lots of sugar and salt here, too).

    That's almost a full day's worth of calories in a single meal, and they are all extremely low quality calories. The kind of calories that contribute to diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity, etc. rather than nourishment.
     
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    I really wish we had settled on something more useful than calories as the default measure of food.
     
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    BornToLooze SS.org Resident Redneck

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    The only way I can stand drinking Coca Cola is with a healthy dose of whiskey added to it. Other kinds of cokes like Dr Pepper are fine, and whiskey tastes fine by itself, but I can't stand the taste of Coke by itself.

    I've never cared for tone knob on the bridge pickup unless I'm playing clean, but the neck pickup on my Les Paul with the tone on 2 and the volume on around 7 is about the creamiest lead sound I've ever heard.

    But the thing about losing weight and eating healthy that I think everybody forgets, is physical activity. One of my friends has talked me into meal prepping. He works in an office and has lost like 15 pounds doing it. He makes sure all the meals he eats are healthy and when he drinks it's vodka with sparkling water because that's the healthiest thing he could figure out.

    I spend 10-11 hours a day working my dick into the dirt in the Texas heat and have lost weight with a diet that should have me north of 300 pounds. The last time I went to the doctor (messed up my hand and had to do everything one handed) I weighed like 20 pounds more than the last time i weighed myself. I couldn't figure out why until I picked up a 65 pound box and set it on a shelf over my head with one hand. And they checked my blood pressure when I had to go the chiropractor (car wreck and work related injury) and my blood pressure was abnormally good, especially for someone my size.

    Just like the time I started watching strongman videos, I looked up their work out out of curiosity. I don't remember the whole thing, but one thing was take a 50 pound sandbag and try and pick it up. I don't know if there's a difference in a 50 pound bag of sand and a 50 pound bag of deer corn, but I've been slinging those around since I was 11 so I could go hunting.

    I'm looking at meal prepping as a break from eating the usual frozen shit you can make with a 30 minute lunch break. And I wouldn't be surprised if within a month or 2 I've dropped more weight than he has. I know people talk about how it's cheaper to eat bad than to eat healthy, but honestly, unless you're a welfare leech you'll burn off a Big Mac as fast as a plate of vegetables at work.
     
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    KnightBrolaire despair ahead

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    joules and kilojoules would have been worse options...
     
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    ^ Those end up being very similar, in a sense. It's just an estimation of "energy" used. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't calories "calculated" just by observing changes in body heat after eating or something like that? Joules/Kilojoules I imagine are the same deal just in a different unit.
     
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    joules and calories are similar as far as being able to measure thermal energy/kinetic energy, both are used for measuring the themodynamic energy required to raise the temp of 1g h2o by .24 C or 1 C respectively. Outside of food science/chemistry nobody really uses calories as a measurement. 1 cal converts to around 4.2 joules so all the food labels would have wayyy bigger numbers on them for the energy (ie a big mac would be 2100 joules or so).
     
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    Also the definition of calorie implies that all "fat burners" and every product labeled as making you lose weight, are a huge pile of shit.
     
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    I think supplements should be banned across the board here since most of them are misleading and useless in terms of their stated goals (ie they help you burn fat, etc). They shouldn't even be allowed to make the claims they make imo. It's like when Airborne first came out, and claimed that it could help fight the cold (which it doesn't, it's basically just expensive fizzy Tang). Supplements and "targeted weight loss" (ie lose their beer gut through situps) are two of my biggest pet peeves when talking about weight loss/general fitness.
    My mom was literally just asking me about intermittent fasting and a bunch of general weight loss/nutrition questions, including if supplements or targeted weight loss works. I spent 2 hours explaining general concepts of lifting/nutrition and that targeted weight loss is a myth, supplements are garbage, and that any diet can work provided you monitor calorie intake/expenditure. I had to explain to her that situps are never going to magically reduce belly fat, and that if she really wanted to reduce her body fat, she needed to do compound lifts (ie squat, deadlift, clean and jerk, snatch) and some sort of cardio.
     
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    And really, for somebody's mother (presumably a lady in her 50's?) all she really needs to do is eat less and move more. Compound lifts would be beneficial for her overall health in many ways, for sure, but I know my mother would be massively put off with suggestions that she needed to do deadlifts to lose some stomach fat.

    You're totally correct about the misinformation and supplement bullshit. But one of the biggest problems is that along with all the misinformation out there, the truth is overcomplicated and overexploited to normal people, which makes them worry about macronutrient percentages, meal timings etc. Then that makes it too complicated, difficult or annoying to make changes.

    For the average person who isn't an athlete, isn't training, isn't bodybuilding, and just wants to lose weight, it's EASY. They simply need to eat less (such as reducing meal sizes, cutting dessert, or cutting out snacks, cutting calorific drinks) and move more (climbing stairs, take the dog for a longer walk). Create a calorie deficit, and done. I think everybody has known this for a long time, but we overcomplicate things so much.
     
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    lol first thing out of my mouth was calories in should be less than calories used. she's already lifting and dieting so I just tried to give her some extra nutrition/exercise advice to help her lose weight faster.
     
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    Well, in any civilised country that won't let someone die on the street, somebody is paying for it. Whether it's through a socialised system, or through private insurance (which in turn gets money from other customers to cover the cost), or through medicare/medicaid (which is just a socialised system costing more per person than most European systems), you're sharing the cost anyway.

    And it would be more economical to pay for the fat guy's insulin than to pay for his foot amputation, his disability, his repeated stays in hospital due to infections etc.

    Great attitude. Best of luck to you!

    Type 2 diabetes is no joke. People write it off because it's pretty common nowadays, but it's a very serious disease with a LOT of side effects. The absolute best thing you can do is lose weight and avoid having huge swings in blood sugar.

    I think the culture and portion sizes is the main factor. Every time I visit the US, I'm just stunned by how large the portions are. And every time I go, I gain weight (because the food tastes good dammit). It's simple psychology that when your popcorn is enormous, you eat more than if it was smaller. The level of hunger or satisfaction has absolutely nothing to do with it. People will just eat as much of the portion as possible, even past the point of removing hunger.

    The second factor IMO is a culture based on lack of self control and indulgence. Everything is about immediate gratification nowadays. Simply put, people are greedy and we have given up discouraging that. The same thing extends to many walks of life - zero interest payment plans etc.

    I don't believe education is such a huge factor. You don't need to be highly educated in nutrition to know that throwing burgers down your throat every day and never exercising will make you fat. I don't think anybody gets to 300lbs and is genuinely confused about how it happened. There are also PLENTY of highly educated educated fat people out there.

    Same for healthcare. The number of people who actually need special diets is incredibly small, and they would most likely have encountered the healthcare system for related symptoms at some point anyway. You don't need a doctor to tell you that eating less and moving more will result in weight loss. You don't need a doctor to tell you that vegetables are good and hot dogs are bad.

    I also don't think economics is as much of a factor as people make out. Food in the US is cheap in general, including healthy options. Time poverty (and laziness) might be more of a factor. But if you compare to Asian countries, they often work longer hours, have incredibly stressful lives, and they have super convenience (vending machines everywhere, 24 hour convenience stores with microwave food etc), and yet they don't have anywhere near the levels of obesity.
     

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