Tuning a half step down?

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  1. reptillion

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    Hey,

    I'm getting a pro setup for my universe, and am planning on using 9-46+60 gauge strings on it if i go with standard tuning, but I'm wondering if I should try a half step down? I dont want to seem like I'm just doing what my favorite bands do, but it seems Bb is popular among 7 stringers. The reason I want to tune to standard is I want to have one guitar in standard tuning, but I have a feeling Bb might sound a bit better, but the tonality change might be negligible. Any advice?

    Thanks
    Ryan

    PS: this is primarily going to be for metal in the style of Nevermore/ Dream Theater, and also, would Bb make it harder to incorporate keys?
     
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    I keep my Carvin DC727 in Standart E tuning and use 9-42+56. that guitar likes that set up.
    on my J-custom (and the 7620's I used to own) I tuned them all down 1/2 a step (my nevermore guitars) and I always seem to like 10-46+60 on the Ibbys.

    B flat won't really sound any 'better" just a little lower.
     
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    Man you ladies play with spider webs. ;)

    I would not even think about going lower than standard with 9's..but hell..I won't use anything lighter than 11's for any tuning...so If it feels ok to you then do it.

    I don't really understand your thoughts on making anything more difficult.
     
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    I actually like to play Lead:fawk:
    11's in standard tuning for me would just suck.
    10's in standard are ok on certain guitars.
     
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    I suggest doing 1 finger push ups daily to become a man.:metal:
     
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    Haha, i used to use 12s in standard on my Sg, now i have 11-54 in C or D, but 10s in standard are too thick on the unwound strings on the UV, i tuned to G and the unwound strings were surprisingly awesome.

    I dunno, I love nevermore and wouldnt mind tuning down to learn their songs, but this is for what tuning i wanna write my stuff with.

    So much stuff in standard... and so much in Bb... hard choice

    and for Bb i would probably use 10-50 or 9.5-50 with a 64
     
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    I love you guys that think using the biggest strings you can find makes you more manly :nuts:
     
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    I use a regular 10-59 d'addario set for A# standard (so, half step down, I guess).

    Sounds tight as hell to me :D

    Edit: Definitely revived a dead thread. Shame on me.
     
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    Thicker strings have better tone. I use 11 gague strings in standard tuning to get a fat tone on the high strings. If you use thick strings, you will get used to them and they become easy to play with.
     
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    Please. I use an 84 for my HIGH E.
     
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    Thicker strings have DIFFERENT tone. Not better, not worse, just different. They tend to be a little more naturally compressed, which gives them the impression of sounding a little darker (due to the less pronounced attack) and have somewhat more sustain (for the same reasons).

    I actually kind of like the sound of thinner strings, as I tend to like fairly dark amp sounds coupled with bright guitars. However, I like the feel of heavier strings, I pick pretty hard which causes problems on lighter strings, and I feel like I phrase a little better on them. I use 10s as a compromise.

    Really, though, as a guy with one foot pretty firmly planted in the thick strings camp, this whole "thicker strings = more tone" thing is pretty dumb. It's a question of evaluating each piece of your signal chain in light of every other piece, and figuring out what works for you.
     
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    I'm a light top, heavy bottom guy. And it's not like I'm purposely using a deathgrip, hand me a guitar with light bottoms and I guarantee you all of my low notes will warble like hell with no sustain. I've tried using lighter strings, it just doesn't work for me.
     
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    I think it's hilarious I got neg repped over a post I made almost 3 years ago.
     
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    When I made my comment I was referring to guys running an .80 for a low B. 11's in E are hardly huge.
     
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    Fixed even though I was not here three years ago! :D

    I thought it was funny and true :shrug:
     
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    i just ordered .72 and .74 for the low G on my 7 lmao
    the guy at the music store said, "uhh..., they dont make those...."
    HA!
     
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    :funny:
    Either ernie ball or ghs makes a 90, yes it's a guitar string.

    EDIT: I went and checked, it's GHS
    [​IMG]
     

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