I did some searching with google and couldn't turn up any results but if I'm missing something feel free to post a link to the thread and then close this one. So last weekend i decided i was wanting to try out some overdrive pedals at my local guitar center to see which one i preferred. They wouldn't let me plug any of the pedals into the 6506+ head like i wanted but luckily they had a 6505+ 1x12 combo amp in the "demo room" witch i figured was close enough. Well i picked out the 3 pedals that seemed like the obvious choices (ibanez ts9, ibanez ts808, and a maxon od808) and proceded to try them out. after getting the pedals set up my signal chain looked like this Schecter c7 hellraiser with emg 81-7 in the bridge---> overdrive pedal---> 6505+ combo amp. I dialed my amp in to my liking and then turned on the first pedal (ibanez ts808). Thats when things started to fall apart. I only noticed a slight boost in gain and absolutely no increase in tightness (kind of the whole point of me using a od pedal.) So i tried dicking around with the knobs on the amp: cutting low end, increasing mid and high, cutting pre gain etc. etc. This still left me unsattisfied so i moved on to the next pedal (ts9) and it still didn't do the trick after 15 minutes of tweaking. Then i tried the maxon od808 without yielding a much better result. In addition to this, when i tried the ts9 and the maxon, i had this harsh, high end kind of "clank" that i heard as my pick struck the string. Just to make things clear I'm looking to get a really tight, slightly percussive low end like on Born of Osiris' new album or on Veil of Maya's new album. I think what pisses me off the most is i spent nearly an hour trying to dial in a good tone when i can spend about 5 minutes with the 30 watt peavey vypyr i use at my guitar instructors home and get a decent if not good and sattisfying sound. So i guess my main question is am i just a total n00b and i can't dial in a good tone for shit? am i eq'ing it wrong? or is what i'm trying to achieve just not possible (highly unlikely)? I once again call upon the all knowing minds of ss.org to help me with another problem EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's not a technique issue either, as i can "djent" (as much as i hate the term) pretty well when playing though the aforementioned vypyr.