Totally bizzare diy guitar mods

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  1. Gmork

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    Ive wanted to mod a guitar to the point where its practically not a guitar anymore (just for fun/for my experimental punk band) and am interested in hearing your wacky ideas (whether or not youve actually done it before)
    Such as...
    -Take out one of the pickups and install it on the head by the nut!!!
    - use a huge gauge bass string for the 6th string.
    -move the bridge all the way to the end of the body.
    -add a second 1st string like on a 12 string.
    Etc etc and so on and so forth.

    Whatcha got?
     
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    theres not enough wood to instal a pickup there, unless you do it from the outside (in top of the strings). Cool idea, but as soon as you hit one fret, then it doesnt work. it only would work with open strings. You also need to run a long cable along the neck

    could be done if you file the nut and bridge sadle. But whats the note you trying to achieve?. An octave below E. So you could use a string like used on a 8 string guitar. So no need to go full .110 gauge. IT all depends what note you trying to play

    that would make the whole instrument useless. The intonation points would be off and nothing you press down on the fretboard would be in tune.

    thats something that could be done. Like the BCRich 10 string, where only the 5-6 are singles but all the rest are doubles. You could do the same approach but only the 2-3 highest strings, so you can do chord playing, but switch to distorted riffing on the same guitar. Cool idea, but if this is your plan, have a research at the type of bridge you would need and if you can buy one. Maybe getting a TOM guitar and buying a 12 string bridge. So a Strat would be a no no for this


    You could do all sorts of crazy mods, but do them with a function in mind. Whats the thing you are trying to accomplish?, doing mods for the sake of it, would result in an un-playable instrument, like moving the bridge back. Which again depending on the guitar it might be pretty hard/impossible to do for you, and would result on a guitar that wont play any note in tune and you wont be able to use it with your band.

    if you wanna do crazy mods for the sake of it. Start with experimenting with pickups. Get a cheap strap, buy a pickguard blank and start adding/removing pickups in all sorts of crazy places, add a bass pickup, or 4 humbuckers on a row, stuff like that
     
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    the craziest mod of all is being in an experimental punk band in 2017
     
  4. Gmork

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    Unplayable in the traditional sense is ok. And i dont care if the pickup is sticking out the sides of the head. Like i said the end result would probably not ressemble a guitar in looks or sound but would be perfect for making crazy noise.
    Edit* experimental NOISE/punk band.

    Well we started in 1996 but i think i get your point.
     
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    Approved if it's experimental djent punk.
     
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    Don't listen to people telling you not to play the style of music you want to play.

    There's a punk band in Vancouver, I think, who uses microtonal (17-EDO, IIRC) guitars. If you measured the distance from the nut to the 13th fret (or whichever fret, in general), and then made the same distance from the 13th fret to the bridge, you would accomplish 13-EDO (or whichever fret-edo, in general). I have heard people say that this won't work, but you could give it a try and then you can show 'em.

    If you do such, I would recommend that everyone else in the band do the same thing, otherwise it'll sound like everyone is trainwrecking in different directions, rather than as a cohesive trainwrecking band. :lol:

    Actually, shoot, I think I might try to do exactly that procedure with my Dean AV7.
     
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    How about ripping all the frets out of an electric and using an E-bow. You'd get some crazy sounds out of that for sure!

    If you want a drone string, get a 7-string guitar and tune the lowest however you want. That way you still have all six strings but a drone in whatever note you choose.

    You could also experiment with tuning slightly sharp or flat, like 445A instead of 440A.
     
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    Tune to DADADA or BFBFBF or similar for one finger six string power chords all the way up the neck.
     
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    So, I looked up some 17edo expecting it to sound awful. However, it's quite pleasant. Although, I don't know how it would sound with a bunch of gain or heavy riffing. What do you even call the seventeen notes?
     
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    Here's the punk band: https://jocktears.bandcamp.com/track/weird-date

    Yeah, 17-EDO doesn't sound too wacky. 19-EDO also sounds pretty normal. They both work well with power chords, since the root-fifth-octave power chords work very well. Usually standard-ish notation is used for both of these tunings:

    17-EDO notes, starting with open 5th string and then up one fret at a time:
    A Bb A# B C Db C# D Eb D# E F Gb F# G Ab G# A

    19-EDO notes, starting in the same spot:
    A A# Bb B B#/Cb C C# Db D D# Eb E E#/Fb F F# Gb G G# Ab A

    So, in 17-EDO, if you want to play an A5 power chord, you could play it like:

    ------
    ------
    --3--
    --3--
    --0--
    ------

    or

    ------
    ------
    ------
    --10-
    --10-
    --7--

    I don't think there is anything awful sounding at all about 17-EDO nor 19-EDO, nor most other tunings like those, which is why I think they'd work great for punk music.

    If you want it to sound awful, then you could just place the bridge wherever you want, cut fret slots wherever you want, then just bash the strings randomly in and out of time with your picking hand whilst making a frantic puppet show with your fretting hand. Or, better, yet, steam off the fretbaord and reinstall it backwards, so the frets get further apart the closer to your picking hand you go.

    Or, worse than all of that, forget about the guitar and instead take up bagpipes, but make sure you take exactly zero lessons before playing out.
     
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    YES! Lol brilliant! Also like the puppet show idea lol
     
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    Frank Zappa had a strat where he installed a piezo element in the neck, you could try that.

    I've looked into it myself and I can't figure out whether he had it at the headstock end or in the neck joint - either are possible however.
     
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    That ^^^ ....is rather excellent. :D
     
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    Pull your frets and go fret less.

    Pull some of your frets and go full pentatonic.
     
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    some piezo transducer on the headstock is a useable idea. i used to use a tuner clip-on piezo with a fretless bass. tacking on a buzzer piezo would prolly work too.
    if you want to stick a magnetic pickup in a weird place check out a so called 3rd bridge idea. ideally you make a distance between a bridge and a stoptail something meaningful, say 1/6 of instrument's scale and place a pickup underneath strings between bridge and stoptail.

    edit: some inspiration ;) a rusty chain and a spring as sympathetic resonators are an interesting idea. aesthetics aside ;)

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    STOP! STOP! It's already dead. :(

     
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    Yes!.... YEEESSSSSS!!!!! KEEP GOING!
     
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