Top Speed?

Discussion in 'Music Theory, Lessons & Techniques' started by Konfyouzd, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. Sean Babiniec

    Sean Babiniec SS.org Regular

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    Just like someone who plays violin in a symphony, it is important to have speed so that you can physically play any piece of music handed to you. For me, I need speed so that I can execute the music that I hear in my head. (Please note that I am only at 16ths at 160 bpm, so I am pretty slow)

    However, there are so many little kids that are shredders on youtube, playing every "Betcha can't play this" and such, but they can't even name the chords in a C major scale. They wouldn't even be able to sit down and jam with you.

    To me, speed is only a technique to facilitate the music, and insurance that you will be able to execute the music. It is just so highly focused on now-a-days.

    However, it is better than the grunge days where all people focused on was how old and shitty their telecaster looked while they played a power chord! :nuts:

    Sean
     
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    Haha yea... I started guitar in the early 90s, being inspired by the guitar greats of the 80s... and then grunge happened...
    To me the 80s are still the 'golden age' of guitar. Lots of great guitarists, and back then they delivered the whole package... they had the chops, but also wrote good songs and had great tone.
     
  3. Konfyouzd

    Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Contributor

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    grunge gave us jerry cantrell :D
     
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    Ridiculous riffs. Control. Funny guitar playing.
     
  5. Konfyouzd

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    to be honest i'm also a fan of dragonforce and rusty cooley's weird little shred video game noises. i don't think i'd actually ever use them but i think stuff like that is fun to play when i'm at home practicing.
     
  6. Sean Babiniec

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    Definitely. Anything on Shrapnel in the 80s was awesome. I think we are starting to recover though, with solo albums such as Loomis' Zero Order Phase! :hbang:
     
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    Hell, yeah. What a great album ! I love it!:shred:
     
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    I start struggling when the metronome goes above about 150bpm, haha. Shred's never really been my bag.
     
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    I can understand, and I think 16ths at 160 bpm is perfectly fine, anything above that and I stop listening.

    Speedy riffs aren't always ridiculous, I've seen some pretty tricky slow stuff :D
     
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    Of course, and that is when I study displacement, dynamics, metric modulation, ghost notes etc.

    But I like playing both. And playing fast means I can easily string skip awkward riffs that are much slower.
     
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    Do you have any example of that?
    Your youtube channel only seems to have random picking exercises. You got any actual songs somewhere?
     
  12. Scar Symmetry

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    that's rubbish, if you listen to any modern shredder then you are listening to speeds much faster than that.
     
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    I used to listen to all sorts of fast players, but Tony MacAlpine and Vai are as far as I go nowadays.
     
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    I am actually preparing to record an album that contains loads of it. 2 things are currently slowing me down, work and having to learn all the drum, piano and bass parts.

    I will be putting a showcase of riffs etc on youtube pretty soon though.
     
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    yep, they would class as modern shredders :yesway:
     
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    Vai's pretty damn fast when he wants to be from what I've listened to. I don't know the exact speeds, though.
     
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    Tony MacAlpine and Vai never go over 160.
     
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    same thing i'm going through right now
     
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    Damn, its been a total nightmare for me. After destroying a £1500 laptop and a prestige S series ibanez I thought I was ready to record.... then my mac died! So I have got a new a Mac, now I need to buy Eastwest symphony orchestra again and DFH.

    Total fucking hassle.

    Never write a book. Never record music. Never work for yourself.

    3 valuable pieces of advice.
     
  20. Konfyouzd

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    damn your story is worse than mine. i'm just really tired from work all the time even though i have a freakin desk job. i work with a computer so i don't usually want to sit at one when i get home.

    that and i've been trying to get off my ass and get a lady in my life so i've just been putting less time into the things that generally keep me away from women. :lol:

    but i'm gettin' back into recording now because of the ss.org album thing. you doin' that?

    /off topic (sorry)
     

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