The HAARP Machine is Back...

Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by musicaldeath, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. GunpointMetal

    GunpointMetal SS.org Regular

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    Played with a band one time that ran everything into protools with guitars side-chained to pre-recorded DI tracks. If they were playing, the guitar audio was coming through, if they stopped and there was still a guitar part the DI track would ride in and take over. So they'd be doing ridiculous stage moves while obviously NOT playing, but the sound never changed. Good stuff, for a laugh.

    I'm 100% sure this dude is an excellent guitarist (now). It's a shame he make his music sound like reamped Guitar Pro.
     
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    Veil, ATB, BoO, and Within the Ruins all backtrack guitars live now (not for everything, just due to lack of a second guitarist). I think part of it is that it's financially more appealing to do so. But one of those I think has a somewhat difficult time playing live and I've heard backtracks pretty much everything.
    I know the guitarist for WTR chooses to play the easier parts where given the choice.
    A lot of prominent bands, even with two guitarists, are using backing tracks anymore, for a lot. I always thought that was "illegal", but I guess times have changed.
     
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    Maybe internet metal nerds are so hyper-critical that guys that previously thought playing everything live and accepting a few mistakes was the way to go, even though it was way harder to do stuff like that, (Marc Okubo) finally gave up and went with the 100% consistent way and back track everything. IMO this is the ultimate result of the nitpick culture so prevalent in online metal discourse.

    re: Haarp Machine, new song is cool. riff at 0:44 is just unreal.

    I find it funny people still complain about him even though he released a couple videos of him playing with the dryest tone ever, clearly nailing his songs which are - for the record - extremely hard. I'm not crazy about the style as a whole but his take on it has always been substantially cooler than everybody else's so a new album is on my radar, especially if he gets a vocalist as good as Mike on it again.
     
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    Concerning this I’ve learned to separate the man from the music; yeah, we know he’s been in some hokey shit in the past but the dude writes cool riffs. :shrug:

    I’ve been looking for that band Sol (numbers) forever and I’m so glad someone brought them back up :hbang:
     
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    Nowadays market is oversaturated with modern/djent bands and expectations are high.
    Doing mistakes live has become unacceptable so most bands prefer to sit back and play over a backing track where 80% of the actual sound comes from.
     
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    I couldn't care less if he actually plays the music live or not. The riffs are cool and I want more :shrug:

    This track needs vocals:
     
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    chicken and egg?
    Im sorry but music is a man made thing so I will always respect people and their feelings/rights before the "music".

    He has treated fellow musicians, good people, badly
    all i care about is that guitar.
    So cool.
     
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    Didn't see anyone post this, but I don't like the song itself much at all. The video posted above mine is a far better track IMO.

    Also funny to see that are people suggesting that Al Mu'min ripped off Sol2183 when Haarp predates that band online by at least two years :lol:
     
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    Who said that?
     
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    I saw some banter on Facebook where people were discussing that and in the comments of some videos
     
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    bloc tha vagina finda

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    I think it's amazing he's still using EMG pickups. I thought those were considered "uncool" now
     
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    Floppystrings No like the floppy

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    People said the same thing 15 years ago.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    And the decade before that. :lol:
     
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    Seems like everyone and their mom has those trendy Fishman Fluences in their guitars now. I never see EMG's anymore.
     
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    Ive always enjoyed HAARP, and as much as Al is an asshole, music has always taken a life of its own separate from its creator, to me. As much as I can't respect Al for his attitude, I can only but respect and enjoy his songwriting and riff skills. That said, I hope the album doesn't all sound like the new release here. I can only deal with that completely unreal gate sound for like, one or two songs.
     
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    Sydney Taieb of Atlantis Chronicles
     
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    That's pretty conclusive. Can't play his own music so he has to hire other people.
     
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    Surely you wouldn't expect him to be able to play the drums to that standard? He is a guitarist like.
     
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    Tight! Maybe he's drumming on the new album.
     
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    All I know is......this thread is making my varberg boner RAGE.
     
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