The "Critique my Technique" Thread!!!

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  1. Sean Babiniec

    Sean Babiniec SS.org Regular

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    Hey everybody!!!:hbang:

    I have been wanting to make a thread like this for a while but I have been too scurred :ugh:.

    I have seen a lot of videos on this forum with some good and bad criticism being delivered, and I just figured that we should make a thread to so we could post videos and have our peers let us know what is good and bad about our technique!!!

    Please try to keep it constructive, but hey, you can say what you want.

    As scary as it is, I will go first. Here is a video of me testing a new solo out for one of my bands new songs.



    ***EDIT***

    Here is the full song. I messed up on the diminished taps in the solo, but you can just see the solo in the vid above :)





    Let the games begin!!!!!


    ~Sean
     
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  2. guitareben

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    Great man! you got some skills :D.

    Ok, there was something not nice about the first 2 notes of the solo :p. Its not the note, its just the tone i think (or is it out of tune slightly? i don't know haha). I personally would have less treble on my tone, but thats just me. Maybe some more bass + mids to.

    Also, you might want to work on your vibrato a bit, i am not sure, just it didn't appear as if you put THAT much vibrato into some of the notes, but again, it might just be me or something. (and also, i tend to like steve vai type vibrato - massive!)

    Now, you may want to vary the licks and stuff used in the solo, lots of it is just runs down scale etc ^^ . (don't take this the wrong way btw :) i am just saying my dislikes and trying to help you improve - and remember - its only my opinion ^^) Sweeps and just variation in the shredding (dunno what like XD - paul gilbert or jeff loomis licks? or, even better, spend ages coming up with your own unique to you licks. Yea, when you play guitar spend some of the time just trying to come up with new interesting licks. They are part of what define you as a player) - I am presuming your more of a shredder, and you can't really not shred over metal backings like that haha (though if possible mebe come up with something more melodic? i don't know haha XD).

    So yea, tone (less treble more bass mids?), Vibrato and bends, and licks :D. You got some skills btw to ^^.
    Anyway, there some of the things I would do, and if you don't want to do any of them, fair enough :p .
     
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  3. ShadyDavey

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    Not seen you around for what seems like ages dude! You posted a good couple of lesson videos too ^^

    All I can really say as far as your video is concerned however is that you could definitely work on your vibrato. If you like the smaller "nervous" style then that's cool, but on a totally personal level the wider, more expressive type seems to fit rock a little more readily - that lovely wide Malmsteen/John Sykes style.

    Other than that, nice :) (perhaps try to break up your runs with different note groupings to stop them feeling quite so rhythmically static?)
     
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    I don't really have a vibrato "thing", but it does add to solos a lot so I agree with these guys, it would be good to work on it.
     
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  5. Sean Babiniec

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    Thanks guys! Yeah I know that my vibrato is bad and it is definitely something I have to work on! I really appreciate the critique.

    And Shady, yeah I have been a silent visitor the last few months. I don't really want to post on things when somebody already said something similar to my opinion, you know what I mean???

    Thanks to all!
     
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    Yeah, for sure dude - good to see you about though :)
     
  7. Cadavuh

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    Definitely work on your vibrato OP. It might just be me but bad vibrato makes me cringe like nails on a chalkboard.
     
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  8. Sean Babiniec

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    Yeah I noticed that mine just looks like my finger is having a seizure on the fretboard :noplease:

    I was watching myself play at band practice tonight, and I can get a good vibrato and I just realized this:

    I spend too much of my energy making sure I play the right note on the right time, and not enough on expressing each note!

    So I just learned a very valuable lesson thanks to you guys!!!!!


    Anybody else want to be critiqued? These guys know what they are talking about!!!

    ~Sean
     
  9. guitareben

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    Soon as I get my guitar back from its refret and get my GCSE's out the way i will :D
     
  10. Tomo009

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    How did you get your tremelo picking so incredibly tight? In hte video it looks liek your hand isn't even moving. I don't think I can even make a move that subtle without trying to play.
     
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    Timing and vibrato for sure. Make sure you're aware of the note groupings you're trying to fit over the bars and concentrate on getting the notes to be equal and even whilst keeping in mind where the accents fall.
     
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    good idea for a thread

    I overall thought your playing was great :)
    I like your vibrato too.
    For criticisms, I thought the first long slide you did was not quite on/smooth (something I have trouble with myself) and your bends could be a little more dead on and expressive IMO. also didnt care for he sound of the assending run, just the choice of notes, call it personal preference, but thought it was well executed.

    I should post something, I realy need the critque and advice! hmm I dont have a suitable vid of just me playing I'd like to post just yet.... of my few vids they have some sort of distracting hoohaa going on in them.
     
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  13. Sean Babiniec

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    Thanks man!

    Well the key to developing alternate picking is to be extremely relaxed. I have spent about the last 6 months working on doing that. That is why it looks like my right hand is barely moving, and if you watch closely, there is minimal tension in any of the muscles in my right arm (including shoulder, bicepts, etc...)


    Thanks man! Yeah, the timing part was kinda tricky on this one. On the quick descending run at the end, I didn't want to put my accents on the quarter note beats, that is just done too much. I was trying to accent quarter note triplets (so 6 notes per 4 beats), which proved to be somewhat difficult. I like the way it sounds though, the notes kinda flow inbetween the beat instead of right on it.

    Yeah that was just ascending in groups of 4 with the last note being an open E, following up in the mode of harmonic minor (I end on the major 7th). I liked the idea but in practice it doesn't sound so great so I think I will modify that part.


    Thank you all for such great advice! Reps coming your way!

    ~Sean
     
  14. Harry

    Harry Doom man of Doom. Contributor

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    My main problem with this video is well.......it doesn't really allow for much of a technique critique at all :shrug:
    Sure, there is some fast picking, some tapping, a bend or two, some vibrato, but that's barely scratching the surface of what guitar technique is truly about IMO.
    What separates the technique of the average bedroom shredder to the very best is really know what technique is.
    Technique is not all the obvious factors like how fast you pick, or how well you tap, but little things like picking nuances, controlled sliding into other notes with careful phrasing, being able to half tone bend, full tone bends, 5 semi tone bends and all in between, being able to vary up your vibrato technique.........the list goes on.
    Sure guys like Satch and Vai can play super fast, but the fact they also have all of the stuff I listed above in addition to the obvious speed techniques is what makes them truly technical virtuosic players.
    Hell, while David Gilmour might not be a "fast" guitarist as such, his overall command of the instrument and his supreme level of nuance and subtlety, IMHO, puts him in a technical level FAR above many so called "shred" guitarists.
    Listen to guys like him, you'll learn a lot about not only guitar playing but just music in general, seriously.
    Also take into account rhythm guitar. That's a huge aspect of guitar technique and something often overlooked by some "shred" guitarists.
    You gotta have the rhythm thing down too, so make some videos displaying your rhythm technique.

    You just gotta look at the big picture.
     
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  15. Sean Babiniec

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    Yeah I realize I have a long way to go. That is why I posted this, so you guys could give me an idea on how to get there :yesway:.

    If I thought I was awesome the title would have been "Tell me how good I am".

    I have a lot of work to do...
     
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    Harry Doom man of Doom. Contributor

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    No worries dude.
    It's the same for pretty much any humble guitarist really.
    We can always look at ourselves and how we can improve.
    I'm rarely ever happy with my playing and even when I am, I still think there is some way to keep trying to perfect something.
    The fact you have that humble mindset and know you can improve already puts you leagues ahead of guys who suck but think they are top shit shit
     
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    Satch and Vai really aren't all that fast when you compare them to a lot of shredders. I find them to have a lot of little nuances, Vai more than Satch to me, about their playing that make them instantly recognizable.

    If you want speed, look at Cooley.
     
  18. Sean Babiniec

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    That's a given.

    Also, just to put it into perspective, this is a 24 second solo in a song. The solo is kinda speedy and lacks melody, but that is kinda what I felt the song calls for, especially since our other guitarist does a much more melodic solo after me.

    Sometimes you gotta set the pins up so someone else can knock them down.

    I could do a video of the whole song, or a different solo that has much more phrasing if anybody is interested.
     
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    Spot on ^^ .


    Yea do some more ^^
     
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    That doesn't look like a 2027 :noplease:
     

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