That whole "vintage" thing...

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  1. Bobro

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    It's kind of odd and funny that music gear, for example electric guitar pickups, is so obsessed with "vintage" sound. All the ad copy is like, "authentic early 1960s sound" and stuff like that

    This is pretty pathetic, if you ask me, and shows no genuine rock and roll teen spirit at all. I'm sure the Bare Knuckle "Black Dog" pickups do sound very Jimmy Page, but I'm looking for a pickup company that sells pickups with an approach like this: "Jimmy Page would come around on his knees offering to suck your ding dong in order to get a sound like THIS!"
     
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    True - although many wouldn't admit. But: what's the takeaway? :scratch:

    Edit: just wondering why Max is still awake at 2:30AM.
     
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    I work 3rd shift making beer. :pops:
     
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    Ah, right - you're the beer guy. Now that's very vintage! :blahblah:
     
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    You wondered. :shrug:
     
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    A noble work to stay awake at that hour!

    To the OP, to each it's own. At least they don't charge an obscene amount like some "collectors" for rusted out semi functional pickups that some people at that period of time might have thought they sounded like crap anyway. Or forgotten about them the moment the next type of pickup with a bit more oomph would come out.
     
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    Relic’d gear for the sole purpose of looking used is the most pathetic, pussy shit I’ve ever seen...very few vintage amps actually sound good and power tube distortion sounds horrible unless you get lucky...vintage guitars don’t sound better than new guitars. Gibson’s also have no “magic tone”...pfft -the only Les Paul I’ve played that better than just Ok was a ‘97 studio. If you love ‘Dan Fogleberg’ tone, by all means flam away on vintage gear. If not, there is NO MAGIC in vintage gear...unless it’s sentimental or you already love it for whatever reason. One day my grandkids will be snickering because I’m rambling on again about my classic Randall amps lol
     
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    Here we are scoffing at vintage gear.

    And yet we're still plugging our modern guitars into modern amps with unbalanced cables like its the 50s.
     
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    The Peavey 5150 and Mesa Dual Recto are almost 30 years old.

    The Ibanez RG just celebrated 30 years.

    Ya’ll play “vintage” without even knowing it. :lol:
     
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    Even with modern gear, a guy pretending to be good at guitar is a pretty fucking quaint concept.
     
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    For me it is not so much about new vs old, but about attitude. It's like rock and roll has become a museum art form like opera or jazz.
     
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    I'm not sure how to feel when things the same age as me are considered "vintage". :lol:
     
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    Think about it like this: if the "tone comes from the fingers", then your fingers are about to deliver that sweet, sought-after vintage tone in no time! :lol:
     
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    It was always an unwritten rule that anything over 25 years was “vintage” in the gear world. Must have struck a nerve, because more and more I’m seeing it as “80’s or earlier”, which most of the same stuff falls in line with.

    If you ever have time, look at the catalogs for your favorite brands from the year you were born. Then compare them to today. You’ll see most is damn near the same, even brands typically seen as more modern.
     
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    I definitely realized a while ago that most of the gear I've settled on is either almost as old as I am, or older, or is based on technology that's just as old. Main amp? Mark IV from early 90s. Every other amp I own (or have owned in the last while) is based on some old amp design. I'm pretty sure the whole "bucket brigade" thing that my delay pedal uses is a super old concept. It's probably the same for pretty much every (non digital) pedal -> all the concepts for how they work are pretty old. I mean, just the fact that we're using tubes still is a pretty "vintage" concept, isn't it? My acoustic is older than I am too.

    I'm ok with this. To me it sort of means that around 20-30-40 years ago we just got some things very right, and have stuck with it.
     
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    The Boss DD-2 digital delay came out in 1983. Not to blow any more minds. :lol:
     
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    Too late. Mind blown.
     
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    Just like how "classic rock" is now divided into the "LP era," "the cassette era," and the "CD era." IT seems that people love lumping things into categories. I guess we'll now have "vintage" gear split into the "Golden age vintage era" and the "MTV vintage era" or something similar.

    Personally, I love trying out new stuff, and I would love to see guitar builders make more bold statements and for consumers to be more open to trying new things, but, alas, the guitar industry is still dominated by dollars spent by people who's most recent influence is Slash.
     
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    I just want optical pickups and an XLR out.

    And some kind of modeling software. Except modeling is just imitating "vintage" gear... So... Something different I guess.
     

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