String Tension Super Thread (Got a string question? Post it here!)

Discussion in 'Beginners/FAQ' started by MaxOfMetal, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. bostjan

    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

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    If you are happy with 11's in drop D at 24.7", you should be looking at probably 12s at 26.5" for drop G.

    Here's 11-54 in drop D

    .011" E : 18 N
    .015" B : 19 N
    .022" G : 26 N
    .030" D : 23 N
    .042" A : 25 N
    .054" D : 18 N

    On your Jackson, for a similar feel and balanced tension, I would recommend

    .012" D : 20 N
    .016" A : 20 N
    .020" F : 20 N
    .030" C : 21 N
    .040" G : 21 N
    .054" D : 21 N
    .080" G : 20 N

    Significantly thicker than what you had there.
     
  2. Monsterhawk

    Monsterhawk You're killin it bro

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    Oh wow I was way off!! Any idea if these would come in a set or would it be a case of individual strings
     
  3. Discoqueen

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    Hey y'all, feeling very frustrated at the moment, not having a clue about tension and stuff. I've been trying to figure it out on my own, worked on three calculators, but I just don't get it. I think I can figure out which guage strings I should get to make a balanced set, that much I think I've figured out, but I have no idea about how many pounds of tension would be good for me.

    I am looking for a balanced set for an Ibanez RG8. I have been toying with 23 lbs of tension, but don't understand necessarily what that might get me. Would that be like a medium to heavy tension? I think I would prefer a heavier tension, as I'm trying to play fingerstyle on this guitar, and I am used to a heavier tension on my acoustic guitar?

    I will be researching still, so hopefully I can make sense of this (I'm a poet for Pete's sake, this number business is making me feel like a toddler!). Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Help :/

    Also, I have three calculators in various tabs, I just need help figuring out what I am trying to aim for. Thanks, peoples!
     
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    I'd try experimenting with a string set, then changing the gauges once you've determined what works best for you. You could play with numbers all day, but the only way to find out is to dive in!

    I take it you've watched this video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxiaiA8ejqs
     
  5. High Plains Drifter

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    Maybe a long shot but didn't want to start a new thread-

    Can I simply re-use strings that have been used with locking tuners [on the same guitar] or should I not even consider it?

    Thanks for any input..
     
  6. LeviathanKiller

    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    I just bought a 7-string at 27" scale and I want to keep it tuned to AEADGBE, or a whole step lower, GDGFAD. I need to find a set of strings that are comparable to the EJ21 (12-52) that I have on my 25.5" scale 6-string in Drop B tuning. The reason I use the EJ21s is because of the wound 3rd which I love and the excellent tension (although I could step off just a tad). What set(s) could I get that have tension comparable to my 6-string?

    TL;DR
    Went from 25.5" 6-string Drop B to 27" scale 7-string Drop A / E standard (AEADGBE)
    Need strong tension strings because I play hard
    6-string currently has 12-52s on it
    Have no clue what I should be looking for
     
  7. Dawn of the Shred

    Dawn of the Shred Blackest Of The Blackest

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    What brand of strings for a 27" 7 string?

    Will all brands be long enough for the extended scale length?
     
  8. bostjan

    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

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    Probably. One way to find out for sure is to measure from where the ball end of the string, or whichever end corresponds to the ball end, to the tuning post.
     
  9. AkiraSpectrum

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    When I had my LTD Viper Baritone 300 (27") 6-string I used a 10-59 7string D'addario set and they were plenty long enough.
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    It's not just brand but also the sets. What are you tuning to and how tight of a feel do you like?

    I have a 27" and a 28.625" and these are the strings I've been considering. The Labella set is what's currently on both of them. They're both tuned to drop A (AEADGBE). They're what most people would consider normal on the 27" but they're tight like the way I like on the 28.625".

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/labella-hrs-71-7-string-electric-guitar-strings
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/daddario-exl110-7-lite-7-string-electric-guitar-strings
    http://www.juststrings.com/dun-den1056.html
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...ickel-7-string-slinky-electric-guitar-strings
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...string-regular-slinky-electric-guitar-strings
     
  11. AkiraSpectrum

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    When I had that guitar I was tuning it between Drop A# and Drop A. The tension was tight but not excessively so.
     
  12. Bvoluroth

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    Hey guys,

    I have bought an Harley Benton(great quality for the price imo) flying V because i have been wanting to learn songs(mastodon, baroness etc) in lower tunings and this guitars enables me to do so. It has a .10 string set on it, a 24,75'' scale and its tuned to D# standard, but i also play in Drop C#.

    The guitar stays in tune fine, but when i tune to drop C#, the lower string is so loose that it detunes to D when hit and then it slowly goes back to C#.

    Ive been looking at locking tuners, dry lubing the nut, swapping the nut or putting heavier strings on but i dont know what would be best.

    Do you guys have a recommendation what i could do to fix this problem?

    Thanks in advance!:wavey::hbang:
     
  13. stevexc

    stevexc Laura Like Butter

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    Heavier strings would be my go-to. For Drop C# on a 24.75" I'd go with a 10-52 set (rather than the 10-46s I assume you're using). Locking tuners won't directly do anything to help assuming you're restringing properly.
     
  14. Winspear

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    A tighter string is definitely needed yes. A 52 as said will give that same tension as the 46 D# :) And will perform really well in D# without being too tight
     
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    Thank you guys for the help! im gonna put on a set of 10-52 today and look how the tuning will hold.
     
  16. bmth4111

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    Hello all,
    I have a 25.5" scale 7 string with a Floyd rose and I'm trying to tune to GCGCFAD. I am using daddario xl .012-.060 gauge strings with a .074 for the 7th string. The lower string (especially the 7th) seem to have low tension and really slow down playing. I have the spring plate screwed into the body as far as it can go and the bridge still sits at a upward angle out of the body. How can I fix this?
     
  17. diagrammatiks

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    how many springs are you using?
    maybe try an 80. 74 is a bit low tension in comparison to your other strings.
    upward angle as in the back of the trem is pointing towards the sky?
     
  18. bmth4111

    bmth4111 SS.org Regular

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    I have four springs. And yes the back of the trem is away from the body (towards the sky).
     
  19. diagrammatiks

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    use spring number 5. although I don't think you should need to...it's only around 18 pounds of tension per string. did you tune it correctly one string at a time alternating?
     
  20. MerlinTKD

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    Yeah, string tension is higher than spring tension. You can add another spring, or a lower gauge set of strings. I used to tune the same with an 11-49+68 with no problem on a Floyd equipped 7.
     

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