STOLEN: Parker Fly Silverburst (LAMetalShop)

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  1. WillingWell

    WillingWell SS.org Regular

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    Many of you may know of the recent issues regarding the user LAMetalShop here. I was involved in a trade with him and sent my Parker Fly Silverburst to LA to be traded for a Mesa Boogie Mark V.

    This guitar was previously owned by mikernaut and ryanougrad here and you can find pictures accordingly, but it is the standard Fly shape with silverburst finish and chrome EMGs. It has two dings along the upper horn on the front and one near the bridge, I believe.

    I'll put up pictures later when I've compiled everything.

    In addition, if anyone's dealt with legal matters regarding stolen gear/gear deals before, can you please contact me? It looks like I'm going to be needing to contact the FBI Internet crimes as this guy took my guitar and skipped town essentially as he claimed he was moving to New Mexico before he was banned here.

    So, keep your eyes out for a Parker Silverburst on craigslist and other places. Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    7 Strings of Hate Mid-Level Asshole Contributor

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    thats fucked up.
     
  3. HighGain510

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    Well in this case, the one thing that is fortunate is the silverburst Parker Fly was very limited in production and considering the blems you shouldn't have any major problems identifying it (you do have the serial number on-hand, and pictures of it as well, don't you?). Keep your eyes CONSTANTLY on eBay and check local craigslist in New Mexico or whereever he said he was moving to. :2c:

    The bad news is for something as small as this, good luck getting the FBI involved. :( Unless the guy stole enough stuff (not sure if it's over $10K or $20K for the higher-ups to get involved) it's going to come down to a case of the local police. Your best bet is to get the number for the police department for the town you sent the items to and file a report with all the pertinent info. Not sure how much that will do, as something similar happened on another forum but the dude got away with like over $10K worth of funds from sales he never wrapped up and the idiots who sent him the money never filed a dispute so the vast majority lost their money completely and now months later still have nothing to show for it. :noway:

    Horrible lesson learned here, but in the future never ever EVER send your gear in a trade to some noob on a forum. I almost had an encounter like this and it taught me that if I'm EVER trading with someone, since I have a proven track record (and a conscience :lol:) I absolutely will not ship until I have THEIR guitar/amp in hand to avoid putting myself in this situation because I know there are tons of douchebags out there who would not provide me the same courtesy of completing a long-distance trade. :( Either way, hope you get it sorted out bro! :wub:

    P.S. I find it terribly ironic that the ONLY guy on here who vouched for this scumbag was Sworth9411, yet he's the one who posted the "This guy is a scammer!!!" thread and in the thread says there are ways to pursue the scammer? :orly: That just rang a bit fishy with me.... :spock:
     
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    Fzau Unleash the proggies

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    +1, I immediately thought that too..
    it was something like "FYI Nick owns a small studio in LA and is a legit guy, I bought my 5150 from him a few months back"

    Btw, I hope you have good proof of your deal and the serial number. You could be fucked otherwise I'm afraid
     
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    I do have a lot of pictures and the serial number for the guitar. So contacting internet crimes would be a waste of my time?
     
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    That sucks ... i know how it is not have the person hold up their end of the trade --- blows
     
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    Can't hurt to try and contact them, worst they can say is "fuck off" in which case you're no worse off than you are now :shrug:
     
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    Yeah I would still go ahead with that, I'm just saying in the majority of cases of this nature it will not get escalated to the FBI if it's under a certain dollar amount (while this absolutely sucks, it won't be filed as grand larceny or anything :lol:). That's why I'm suggesting filing the police report under that jurisdiction, they will more than likely investigate where the stuff was shipped to and normally they might be able to track where he was headed to (mail forwarding and such, assuming he's an idiot) and have the police in that district look into it. I would also let them know there were multiple counts of theft and have the others involved contact the police department ASAP. :2c:

    Also, FWIW I'm not saying Sanford is guilty of anything, just stating it was ironic that the guy has zero rep and came on and scammed a bunch of folks based on one person's record of his "credibility" then disappears leaving the guy who vouched for him putting up a thread stating he was a scammer. :lol: Not laying blame at his feet, just saying be more careful of the people you vouch for, in this case you can usually tell who the flakey folks are so some people should be more hesitant to back someone up if there is a remote chance that they might not be totally on the up-and-up. Hope that clarifies, I don't know Sanford personally so I am not passing judgement on him, I'm just going by what I saw when this all started. :wavey:


    EDIT: In light of other evidence I've found personally outside the forum, and some stuff (like the IDENTICAL IP ADDRESSES for Sanford AND LA METAL SHOP) posted by the mods, I revoke any sort of apology I posted above. Sanford PM'd me asking me not to ruin his credibility on the board by associating him with the "scammer" but considering the info I have and the info the mods just provided, Sanford is officially GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT at this point, IMO. :squint:
     
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    honestly man i would fly down to LA and go to the address you shipped the guitar too and get it back (at least try your best)

    Im sure other members of this forum that live in LA will be willing to help.
     
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    were working on it right now dude.....
     
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    ^what are you doing excatly?
     
  12. Ketzer

    Ketzer Good news, everyone!

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    found this...


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    Posting expired, though.
     
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    Hmm... I think some explaining is in order.

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    Ketzer Good news, everyone!

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    uh oh.
     
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    You said it! :rofl: So wait... I'm confused, did you ship your guitar to Sanford or LA Metal Shop, Nick? :scratch: If it was the former, this story just got VERY interesting! :lol:
     
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    Ketzer Good news, everyone!

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    Looks like it went to Sanford.
     
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    Sanford "brokered" our deal due to lametalshop being on vacation. I shipped the guitar to him c/o "refind studios" on 11-24 and it was allegedly dropped off at lametalshop's studio on 12-2. Though these pictures suggest otherwise. I hope there is a rational explanation in order.
     
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    What does your tracking number show as the ACTUAL delivery date to Sanford?
     
  20. Daemoniac

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    Wait, so Sanford has the guitar? What? I'm so confused, and somewhat infuriated (though I'm not quite sure at who yet :nuts::lol:)
     

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