Severe hand pain?

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  1. will_shred

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    Hey guys, i'm starting to get really worried about my hand and I want to know if anyone else has had a similar experience. I always try to warm up slowly, play with a relaxed hand, and do minor hand stretches before and after practice. About 3 weeks ago my hand just started hurting after a particularly rigorous couple days of practice. The first time it hurt I stopped playing for a day and it felt better, so I start playing and the pain comes back. As time goes on, i'm playing less and less, and the amount of play time it takes to trigger the pain is getting shorter and shorter. The pain will carry on thoughout an entire day or more. I'm getting really worried, but I have no idea what i'm doing wrong. Maybe my hands just aren't built for metal guitar playing :(

    Edit: fretting hand, and the pain often goes all the way up my forearm.
     
  2. MaxOfMetal

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    Sounds like you never let it fully heal.

    Sprains and strains are common, lay off of playing and really try to use your hand, wrist, and arm as little as you can. Take it easy for a couple weeks.

    Better yet, go to a doctor.
     
  3. will_shred

    will_shred not that good.

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    I think you're right, I'll stick it in a brace for a few days and lay down the guitar for a while. better to miss practice then risk injury.
     
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    Where and when does it hurt more exactly?
     
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    Ive got a bung disc in my neck that causes me all sorts of grief, in both arms now, maybe consider doing a series of good neck and traps stretches, you might be surprised, google or youtube some stretches and give it a go. Worst case you do some stretches and it doesnt help but you open up your neck a little :p
     
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    How old are you?
    Does your family have a history of arthritis of any kind?
     
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    Ease up for a while, allow your body time to heal itself. If it continues, you need to evaluate. Where exactly is the pain, what exactly are you doing when the pain begins? Look at your technique and position - a sharp angle at the wrist, for example, will compress the median nerve and cause it to become inflamed, which quickly becomes a self-exacerbating condition. Consider seeing a hand and wrist specialist. A cortisone injection can do wonders for minor injury or inflammation. If you are having a more serious issue, correcting it sooner rather than later will save you much grief - ask me how I know. Even with no insurance, many treatments are more affordable than you might think; I had endoscopic carpal tunnel release procedures in both wrists a year ago with one of the best hand surgeons around and paid cash for it all.

    -m
     
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    I'll recomend you go to physio. In case you could,a music one related.
     
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    This. A friend of mine is having Carpal Tunnel surgery on Friday because he pushed through something like this.
     
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    I have the same issue, but this sounds like the beginning of CTS, not that the stretches will hurt him in any case.
     
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    I actually did see a doctor today, she said that I don't have any signs of carpel tunnel or tendentious. So that's good. She showed me some stretches I could do, and i've also been putting it on ice. But it really looks like i'm just going to have to stop playing entirely for a couple weeks. that's much easier said then done though.
     
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    Try a four year hiatus some time. It'll change your perspective...

    Glad it doesn't sound serious.

    -m
     
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    after a month of being pain free, its back in full force today. No idea what I did wrong, but this has pretty much ruined my week. :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
     
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    That is repetitive strain injury.

    Make sure NO JOINT IS TENSE when you play - shoulders, wrist, thumb, elbow, forearm tendons, everything. You shouldnt be tense at all and if it has gone this far you cannot afford it any more.

    I am exactly where you are and my doctor said I have to stop using my hands for 2 months and wear a splint to limit movement while awake and sleeping to make sure that I dont induce any more swelling.

    Its either that or surgery - which will most likely do nothing or make it worse, so care about your body and stop playing immediately the moment it hurts.

    Also, be waey of your movementd because you are most likely doing something wrong in your everyday life or playing that triggers it.
     
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    Well, I have a term paper to write, so I guess now is as good a time as any to take a break.
     
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    Just a little update, I wrote 7 pages of my term paper while taking a break from guitar. And its not due til the end of the month, so that's cool.

    and I saw my doctor. He diagnosed me with mild tendonitis, and just told me to ware a wrist brace and to take anti-inflammatory painkillers as needed. He also referred me to a hand specialist, so I can see him if need be. So that's what I've done, and the difference is amazing. The brace really, really helps relax my wrist. Other things I've done to improve the pain are; work on my playing posture. Keeping my back straight, helps keep my shoulders relaxed, and helps keep my forearms relaxed. Plus you look way better on stage with good posture anyway. I'm doing the same range of motion stretches I've been doing, and I've taken down the time of my individual play sessions to about 20-30 minutes at a time with 1-2 hour breaks in between. Pain is not gone entirely, but seriously reduced. I also switched my keyboard to something more comfortable, and got a vertical mouse which has helped a lot with my right hand pain.
     
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    If your doctor didn't make it clear, or it isn't clear to other people reading this, be very careful with using painkillers. What I mean is that if you are taking them, they will mask the pain and let you continue to do damage or prevent healing.

    My girlfriend had serious RSI from programming and that happened to her. Her doctor gave her painkillers and she took them so she could keep working long hours (this was late 90's dotcom boom and doctors weren't really commonly aware of RSI stuff yet). Eventually she reached the point where she couldn't even hold a toothbrush anymore and ended up on disability for two years.
     
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    I'm well aware of that but thanks anyway. But also, anti inflammatory do actually work on the root of the problem, which is inflammation. The other alternative treatment for tendonitis is an anti-inflammatory steroid injection directly into the tendon, which would release the tension. It's not like there's a tare involved. But obviously going back to a 2-3 hour practice routine while treating myself for tendonitis would be stupid.
     
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    When I begin compulsively cracking my knuckles constantly, i develop hand and arm pain like you have described. Just in case it's relevant.
     
  20. vansinn

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    Apart from the obvious, as suggested by others, visiting a doctor, I would suggest visiting an acupuncture specialist.
    I've used this over the latter 250 years with amazing results, including after I hammered my fretting hand into a metal railing by pure accident (was supposed to take a grip but missed it), and damaged the early part of my pinky and ring fingers right after the knuckles.

    Others are correct too that such damages needs decently more than a day or two for natural healing.

    Also, Aloe Vera makes something named Arborescens, which does wonders.
    It's a spray; bottle needs to be shaken quite a lot, then spray some on the other hand, apply to the defect zone, and massage it in a bit. Good to use at bed time, leaivng the defect body part to rest while it works.
     

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