Rivers of Nihil: Where owls know my name

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  1. R34CH

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    OHH SNAP. Can't wait to go home and listen to this.
     
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    And it did not disappoint.
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    Right but there are two solutions to this problem.
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    "There's no way of having double bass drumming past X tempo without it sounding like shit"

    Solution one is: Have shit sounding drums on those bits
    Solution two is: Don't have any double bass past tempo X
     
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    Or just use triggers/sound enhancement like I suggested? Unless that counts as shit ofc.
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    In my personal opinion you lose a fair bit of the "heavyness" from relentless double bass drumming once you get to a tempo that doesn't allow any time for any more of the character of the sound than a short tick or slap of beater attack, but plenty of people don't mind.
     
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    The loss of heavyness is true. Personally I don't care about it in stuff like very fast Death and Black metal because the electronic sound is pretty much essential in making the music work. But in most other things I much prefer the true sound of the bass drum, sometimes even at high speeds.

    One of the problems I have with triggered bass drums is when a fast band slows down to play a "groovy" non-metal part. Usually makes my ears bleed.
     
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    Liked Monarchy a lot, loved "The silent life", love Black Crown Initiate, but "Where owls know my name"... holy shit. That was at least as awesome as I expected it to be after reading about that colaboration. My expectations for this record are too damn high now :D
     
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    Album is every bit as epic as I’d hoped it would be. First listen in at the moment, can’t wait to unpack this more. Will provide thoughts after a few more listens.
     
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    im going this saturday in cleveland
     
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    My pre-order arrived today and man I couldn't get the disc in fast enough to listen here at work. Totally exceeds my expectations. Album of 2018 for me I'm sure. LOVE the sax in it. MOAR SAX!!!!
     
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    the sax was the best part of "silent life". Really great album overall imo,
     
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    This record is really really good. The songs are beautifully constructed and all flow very well. Haven't stopped listening to it since it came out. Had to have had 5 or 6 full listens by now.
     
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    I definitely get this. I think a lot of bands use really fast double bass over chugging parts to kind of make it sound more frenzied or intense, but i'd rather have a good blast beat at that point. the riff kinda loses it's edge when the drums are that dominant.

    Also, is it me or does the drum fill at the beginning of "A Home" sound...inorganic? even watching him play it in the music video, it doesn't even look humanly possible.
     
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    I've spun this in it's entirety twice now. Some thoughts:

    -Excellent musicianship and song writing. Some really beautiful, haunting moments throughout
    -Drums aren't horrendous, I think they suit the style
    -Not a fan of the tone of the guitars when they go low. They'd sound so much better without that obvious djent tone (then again I'm a massive fan of that grinding Swedish tone).

    Good album, definitely going to get a physical copy.
     
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    Agreed. Can we get over the djent tone, people? Please? I haven't checked out this band before seeing this thread. I've gotta say, I'm really impressed with the songwriting, arrangements, and musicianship. What ruins it for me is the djent tone. @#$% I'm so sick of that tone. I might be willing to give this album a pass though, because the songs are quite interesting. I'd really love to hear something like this with a more traditional death metal tone.
     
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    I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting a single person to agree with me on this. I'm all for having tight sounding, brutal crushing guitars but you can do that without boosting the mids to fucking Mars.
     
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    Yeah that tone is kind of nasty. In the right context I'm a fan of djenty kinds of tones (haken/karnivool/caligula's horse) but I find that it just doesn't work with River of Nihil's songs/overall vibe. Their older albums keep the djenty tones to a minimum. Monarchy is also a really good alubm
     
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    I'll definitely be checking out all their work. I listened to about 3 songs off this new album this morning. It is right up my alley, and actually reminded me of older Opeth (before they stopped being a metal band) -- this is the first creative and inspiring album I've heard in a long time. I'll just cringe when the djent tone comes forward in the mix. Like Vyn said, you can have tight, crushing guitar tone without that obnoxious mids-only duck quackery. These riffs and songs are deserving of a more girthy guitar tone, IMO.
     

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