Popular Sweep-Picking Exercise: Isn't it more beneficial this way?

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  1. JohnnyZ

    JohnnyZ "Don't criticize what you can't understand."

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    Hello everybody,

    I've started learning "Sweep-Picking" and I found this exercise in my Guitar-Book:
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    But - in my mind - it's way more economic, if you pick it this way, because you don't have to jump over the G-String:
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    Otherwise I'm pretty sure, that there is a benefit in the way the Author wrote, and played, it! I'm not a good guitarist, but the Author IS a great player and established teacher.

    Long story short: I want to understand it. What do you think is the benefit of his Sweeping Style (red circles)? I could imagine that it puts more emphasis on the downbeat and so it makes it more easy to play in "the pocket"/ to get a good groove.


    Thank you very much, guys!
     
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  2. Lemonbaby

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    Your way to play it results in an inside picking motion when changing from the G to b (2nd red circle). Most players feel more comfortable with outside picking.
     
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    CapnForsaggio Cap'n (general)

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    It's all preference. If you are asking the question, you are qualified to answer it.

    I also prefer to start sweeps with an "inside upstroke" - especially if there are 2 notes on that string (not the case here). It really helps flow into the sweep.
     
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    With downward pick slanting, I'm not sure either way matters all that much. Pick what works for you.
     
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    The most natural way to play that kind of arpeggio is to begin with a downstroke. An upstroke in that context would result in a wider movement, which is not very efficient.
     
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  6. JohnnyZ

    JohnnyZ "Don't criticize what you can't understand."

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    Thank you so much for the help, guys! I really appreciate every comment!

    Sorry, my upstroke marks aren't correct: I would start with an downstroke and than go into "Insidepicking" (blue circles) to get the speed I try to reach. @Alternative-Perspective

    I'm not sure about the definition of "downward pick slanting", is the original version (red circles) downward pickslanting?

    Again: Thanks for the help! Looks like you have a great community on this site! :yesway:
     
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    Watch this.

     
  8. Element0s

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    I'd be more comfortable playing the 1st example with the red circles. The less I have the work against the flow of gravity, the better
     
  9. Dayn

    Dayn silly person

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    There's literally no difference, only preference. You need to skip over a string both ways.
    • If you down pick, you need to skip over the G string before playing it with a down pick, then continue playing the B string with a down pick.
    • If you up pick, you play the G string, but to play the B string with a down pick you're going to have to skip over the G string anyway.
    As has been said, it depends on what you're most comfortable with. There's certainly an argument to be made that down picking it results in a more consistent sound especially as that note is on the downbeat. But I don't think it matters in any practical way.
     
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    The first time I start the lick I would play on a down stroke but everything after that I'd start on the upstroke. It's more fluid and personally, skipping over to start on a downstroke again would just feel odd. I actually learned to sweep up clean before I could even sweep down. My upstrokes are very fluid but when I sweep down I generally push my fingers in a circular motion (which works but many people dislike that technique).

    All preference though. As long as you do it nice and neat.
     

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