Pens, writing utensils, handwriting MEGAthread

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  1. vilk

    vilk Very Regular

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    Yeah, I suppose it's a little unusual but...

    I really like pens. I like going to the pen store and looking at lots of pens, trying them out, kind of the same way as I do with guitars or headphones. I'd like a super expensive pen, but I don't feel right using that money on something I could easily misplace, at least at this point in my life right now (economically). Right now I'm in the market for a nice midranged price pen, but I'm still in the process of looking for that special pen that I don't mind dropping a load on. I'm searching for a fountain pen that isn't too short when you take off the cap (I have big hands). LAMY makes one that seems ok for a reasonable price, but I just don't care for the looks of it, and it's too short. I also like to be able to press on the top of the clip to open it wider and slide it into my pocket without it catching on anything. So until I find what I'm looking for I use a variety of inexpensive pens. But as with guitars, even in the budget spectrum there are a variety of specific situations where certain pens win over others.

    I like pens that spit out a lot of ink. So this means water based ink. Oil based ink (most normal ballpoint pens) will last a lot longer, but they're thin and the characters look flimsy and cheap. Even though my 0.7mm water based ink wasn't very expensive, I think the way the ink flows out of this, as well as the quality of the ink, is similar to what you'd find in most high end fountain pens.

    Living in Japan, I am often obligated to write very complex chinese characters in tiny tiny spaces, and in these situations I have to use a super fine point (they sell 0.3 mm here). And I hate it. Generally I prefer to use a larger 0.7mm or even 1mm, but when I'm faced with writing Japanese in a small space I still try to use a water based .5 mm and just hope that they can guess what I'm writing based on the stroke order.



    Now, getting to this threads secondary function: I only write in cursive. I can't understand why anyone would write in block lettering. Cursive is faster, easier to read, it looks better, and especially when you use a nice pen it's practically artistic. Recently, in the place where I am from originally (Indiana USA) they have removed learning and use of cursive from the educational system. I am outraged. I think cursive is important culturally and practically. I feel that block text should be reserved from computers, and that written words should be exclusively cursive. In an ideal world, even text on a computer ought to be converted into cursive.


    So what kind of pens do you like? Or do you use markers or pencils instead? Do you write in cursive? why or why not? post pictures of your pens, or your handwriting!


    [​IMG]^aforementioned pentel that I picked up the other day. Take it from a guy that likes pens, you could spend 20 times as much money (40$) and get a pen that writes with a similar quality. However, ball rollers got nothin' on fountain pens.


    Here's the LAMY fountain I was talking about.

    [​IMG] This color looks cool enough (even though I don't like the other colors very much), it just doesn't have the length I'm looking for. The clip does seem good for sliding into pockets though, even though you can't press on it.

    I think this one looks BA. I like how the nib barely sticks out. It's like "What kinda pen's he got!? It's a mysteryyyy". I don't care for the clip though. Also this is out of my price range anyway.

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  2. Dead Undead

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    I disagree with your sentiments towards cursive text, personally. Some handwriting is atrocious even in block script, so I could hardly imagine having to read through similarly poor cursive.
    That said, I've learned basic Italic calligraphy and cursive both and do enjoy writing in them. I used to be into gel pens but they became too runny for me, so I'm back to ball points for now. I prefer fine tip (0.7mm at largest).
    Nothing fancy or even very pricey, I'm using a Zebra F-701.
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    $7 it may be, but I really like the aesthetic and the feel of these.
    I've owned pricier ones such as Cross, but Zebra Steels are affordable, durable, and write well enough for me for day to day use. I haven't found a reason to drop much more $$ on a single pen since, but eventually I might just come across one I can't pass up.
    I haven't owned a decent fountain pen in years though. I should look back into getting one (and learning Gothic calligraphy, finally).
     
  3. Nile

    Nile Giver of the Likes

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    Uniball Signo Impact 207. Greatest pen ever.
     
  4. vilk

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    That is a cool pen I like that even the grip is the same steel as the pen. What do you mean water based is too runny? like, that you write to quickly and it affects your neatness? Also, why do you think that poorly written block script would be easier to read than poorly written cursive? I think maybe we're so used to reading block script that we think this, but if theoretically everyone wrote English in cursive we would become used to reading poor cursive handwriting and that poor block script would be the more difficult one. Also, when you say you disagree about my feelings on cursive, do you at least believe that it should still be a standard for education? Is it still being taught in Georgia?
     
  5. Dead Undead

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    Thanks. That pen has some nice weight to it, too, haha.
    You may well be right that if we all read cursive more often, it'd be easier. I agree that it should be a standard of education, absolutely, but it is not taught in Georgia. At least in the public system. In fact, they discouraged it when I was learning it on my own in elementary school, most likely because the teachers couldn't read it themselves.

    I write small, and when I took quick notes or tried to squeeze things together with gel pens it always looked sloppy. I don't know if that reflects poorly on my handwriting or what, but they just didn't work for me.
     
  6. vilk

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    dudeman said Cross and now I'm seriously PASing for one of these bad boys

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    I like that it's not fat. I feel that's the biggest downfall of a fountain pen is that it's big and fat and everyone will be like what's with that guys fat ass pen?? This one looks like an ordinary pen, then you pop off the cap and BAM beautiful golden nib with etchings. Also screw on cap.
     
  7. Grand Moff Tim

    Grand Moff Tim Some call me... Tim

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    Sounds like everyone in your ideal world speaks Arabic :lol:. All cursive, all the time. Print, computer, handwriting, everything. It's written right to left, though, not sure how that fits in to your ideal world :lol:.

    I have no problem with cursive not being taught in schools, honestly. In the modern world, typing skills are far more important than handwriting. There just aren't nearly as many situations (in English-speaking cultures) where it's important that a document be written by hand. Nowadays, if someone is writing something by hand, it's either personal notes that nobody else is ever going to have to read, filling out forms at a business or hospital (which have to be written in block print anyways), or writing on a white/blackboard while teaching/presenting (which for me has to be in neat block print anyways, because little Korean kids sure as hell can't read cursive, haha).

    Personally, I hated learning/using cursive in school, and since I'm an old fart by SSO standards, I had to write papers by hand for far longer a stretch of school than most around here. Hell, I was still allowed to turn in handwritten term papers in a couple of classes the first time I went to Uni :lol:. When I write by hand now I do use a cursive of sorts, but it's certainly not the one I was taught in school. It's just how my block script has naturally evolved over the years, with the ligatures not where they're "supposed" to be, but rather where they fit most conveniently in the words I'm writing.


    Man, I could totally see needing a fine point for writing kanji/hanzi/hanja in small spaces. I always had a bear of a time trying to stay in the lines on my Japanese and Mandarin tests in Uni. Hell, even with trying to learn Korean now I can't really squeeze the hangeul together as efficiently as natives can so effortlessly.
     
  8. coffeeflush

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    This one is called Lamy PHD I think, I am using it currently.
    Its a damn good pen and the nib is super smooth, I would have preferred a finer nib but for its price its worth it. The only downside is this pen requires quiet a bit of cleaning.
     
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    Porn time.

     
  10. kamello

    kamello DESU METARU!

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    I had the idea for a thread like this a few months ago but I thought It wouldn't catch any attention :lol:


    anyways, here are my pens
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    and one similar to this but with a different color scheme
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  11. JamesM

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    Precision V5's for me.
     
  12. Azathoth43

    Azathoth43 ל ו ו י י ת ן

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    My everyday carry pen: Pilot Vball RT Extra Fine.

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    I'll also disagree about cursive needing to be required. The written word is about conveying information. If the person writing that information has poor handwriting or gets into to much of a hurry it can quickly become illegible.

    That being said, I plan on teaching myself to write in cursive much better that I do now, which is terrible. But just for artistic reasons, not for practical everyday writing.
     
  13. leftyguitarjoe

    leftyguitarjoe Correct-handed

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    I have the worst handwriting of anyone I know. Its looked exactly the same since I was like 6 or 7. I am 23 now. I dont know why. I have obnoxious racing thoughts and I guess I rush to keep up with my head.


    This is an example of something I did on the fly at my last job. The content isnt important.
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    What are you on about, it's perfectly readable. I'Ve seen much, much worse:lol:
    Once someone at uni lent me his protocol, and I went through it and handed it back after five minutes. I couldn't figure out a single word. I'm not exaggerating.
     
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    Sicarius Reggie J Worthington

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    I use a Lamy CP-1 when I can, buy my go to pens are either Dr. Grips or Zebra F-402s

    The CP-1 is a good beginner Fountain, as it uses replaceable carts, that aren't too expensive. Cleans out really well, too.
     
  16. muffinbutton

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    I don't normally have money to buy nice pens, but I've picked up a few around school. I used to have a sharpie liquid pencil that I loved. Need to get more of those, it was awesome. Now I have some random uniball that I love. I keep it in my gauges sop I don't lose it. Really handy too. no fumbling around in my pockets for it.
     
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    Murdstone Sycamore Trees

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    Sam MJ Tries to be helpful

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    My handwriting is terrible, I'm left handed and I don't think I was really taught it properly in the first place. I really want to re-learn it though.

    Has anyone here done this before? Any tips or styles you would recommend?

    Thanks :)
     
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    wow i didnt even know pens were a big deal! some of those are pretty cool actually haha.
     
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    I have the most terrible handwriting ever. Back in 4th grade we had to fill these big notebooks full of some handwriting exercises during the school year. Mine was so horrible, not only handwriting-wise but decorated with inverted crosses and a big "666" on the front cover that I had to redo the whole thing during the summer vacation.

    In high school, we had to do this group work during one course which was shown for the whole class and when my group's work was shown for the class, this one douchebag said in a loud manner "hey, is that Fat-Elf's handwriting" and everyone started laughing.

    Only guy who has ever complimented my handwriting was this guy in the first year of elementary school who probably started using hard drugs in 7th grade.
     

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