Obama vs Trump 2012

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Sofos, Apr 21, 2011.

Obama or Trump?

  1. Obama

    42.7%
  2. Trump

    28.2%
  3. Other (Please specify below)

    29.1%
  1. Overtone

    Overtone SS.org Regular

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    ROFL! No, it's not. At some point he wasn't doing well financially on a personal level, but the bankruptcies were filed by companies that he owned. Basically he burdened his companies with a lot of debt hoping things would go great, and when they didn't, they had to file bankruptcy instead of repaying those loans. It's kind of like the recent financial crisis... a lot of people (including home buyers, banks, and even hedge funds and real estate firms) basically saw in the period before the financial crisis that there was this great payoff where either they made money hand over fist with very little personal investment, or if they did lose money, it was the lenders' money anyway. Like a trip to the casino using somebody else's credit card! Granted that somebody else was dumb enough to say "Hey, have my credit card. Please! I'm begging you!"
     
  2. Mo Jiggity

    Mo Jiggity 7-string n00b

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    Donald Trump - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Definitely knows what he's doing.

    **EDIT: Hadn't read the whole thread. But still, Ron Paul IMHO.
     
  3. Treeunit212

    Treeunit212 Not your bro, bro.

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    Ron Paul is a "small government" Republican that doesn't believe in the separation of church and state, voted against gay adoption, and wants the STATES to decide everything. Letting the states decide everything would make every state an entirely separate country just like the slave owning south wanted 150 years ago. HE IS A SELF PROCLAIMED CONSITUTIONALIST THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Why don't people get that?!

    As for Trump, did everyone forget that a big chunk of his wealth was inheritance? How bout all those real estate deals that failed under his watch? Do we REALLY want the guy that thinks China is the enemy to run our military? Yeah let's charge 25% interest on china for the 14 trillion dollars they're holding and see if THAT doesn't start WWIII.

    I'll take the president that inherited all these problems and still hasn't killed himself yet over those idiots any day. And no, stem cell research isn't the only thing he did. He also saved us from the second depression and ordered the feds to stop raiding marijuana dispensaries in California.

    That counts for something, right? Right?!?!

    :wallbash:

    Fuckit. Trump 2012.
     
  4. Konfyouzd

    Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Contributor

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    How the fuck is Trump still in the lead? :rofl:
     
  5. TreWatson

    TreWatson Pro Thread Killer

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    just a little intejection: His father was native african, so actually, they can;t call him negro. that's reserved for black americans with no discernable ancestry ( because of slavery)

    Obama's family is kenyan. so since he's technically 2nd generation, he's kenyan american, just like tosin abasi is Nigerian-american (music and politic related FUCKYEAH!!!1)
     
  6. Randy

    Randy Ooh, Degrasse Tyson-son Super Moderator

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    Half Kenyan American.
     
  7. Konfyouzd

    Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Contributor

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    Well damn... Did not know this...
     
  8. synrgy

    synrgy Ya ya ya I am Lorde

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    If I understand a few posts above, it's apparently because people can read his wikipedia article and STILL think he's capable of doing something other than running businesses into bankruptcy. :shrug:
     
  9. aslsmm

    aslsmm Banned

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    i dont want trump or obama in the race, wich is why i dont vote. when they take away the purose of voteing, then they have taken away voting all together.

    people can say "if you dont vote then you dont have the right to bitch about it" but really voting was never suppose to be about picking the lesser of two evils. it was about who would run the country better. read the constitution then get a blue collar working man or an educated non politician man in there and ill vote. someone who is trying to get out of hud housing and struggling to make his child support would give 2 shits about iraq. a contractor that is out of bussiness due to the colapse of the economy wont fuck with free health care. these americans are the ones that should be purposing bills and amendments.

    a minority that overcomes his obsticles to make something of himself wont have a 10+ year bullshit debate on same same sex marriage. we need some one who deals with the every day problems to get in office so we can fix the every day problems.

    ok im done.
     
  10. Konfyouzd

    Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Contributor

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    ^ But he'd die for lack of air time... :(

    That's our country. :shrug:
     
  11. Blind Theory

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    I hope to God that Trump doesn't seriously run. I am not a fan of Obama by any means but I'd much rather have him as President over The Donald. For one, and I haven't seriously looked into it so correct me if I'm wrong but, Donald Trump has very little if no political experience when it comes to running for any office. So what makes him qualified? He has billions of dollars but that doesn't mean he can run a country with as many problems as ours. And I haven't looked at other candidates so I have to say Obama on this.........:wallbash: That tasted bad in my mouth:lol:
     
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    Yup. G.E and MSN wont puroduce a worthy canidate.
     
  13. Alimination

    Alimination Space Adventurer

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    I'm confused on why people go for the lesser of the two evils thing.

    Its like picking either an electric chair or lethal injection.

    ...Just pick neither. There are other parties out there you know? Chances are if you vote for the others (or at least get a high enough percentage) the other parties will start acting like the others.

    The main reason why most of the candidates move towards this socialist, police state, big brother route.. is because the last couple presidents we voted for.. WERE FOR THEM!!!



    I for one am not voting for either, unless Ron Paul is running for republican. Even then I hope he drops out and runs as a libritarian or Independent.
     
  14. Scar Symmetry

    Scar Symmetry Ex Whiny Bitch

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    I understand the frustration of the US folk who think Obama has done a shitty job. However, US Presidency is nearly Global Presidency and from an outsiders POV he's the best guy you've had in my lifetime.

    He's smart, he's responsible and he doesn't fuck around. Hell, I actually quite like the guy. If you choose to re-elect him for another term in office I will for the second time have my faith restored in America.
     
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    The Somberlain Hollow Man

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    Our current path is far from socialist if we're bailing out big business, and after all, Marx, Proudhon, Kropotkin, Engels, et. al were as anti-statist as one could get


    Yep, peeps don't get the big picture in America, and tend to gravitate towards batshit crazy.
     
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    josh pelican Banned

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    Unfortunately, I don't think that's saying much.
     
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    -42- Nothing to see here

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    You're right, we aren't going socialist as much as we're going Keynesian. Granted the two are both poor systems in my opinion, but this isn't a thread for discussing economic models.
     
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    The Somberlain Hollow Man

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    My heart goes socialist, my mind goes Ricardo-influenced Keynesian economics; damn economics get confusing.
     
  19. Speedy Fingers

    Speedy Fingers dat heel

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    I really like Obama. ;)
     
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