Obama Coming Out?

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  1. TRENCHLORD

    TRENCHLORD Banned

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    It's expected that in a moment Obama will be announcing his support for gay marriage despite state referendums being struck down repeatedly throughout the nation.

    It's obviously a political move in which he's sacrificing his populist stance to hopefully (he hopes) sure up and slightly shift his base center.

    They've (his staff has) made a point lately to grease the wheels for this announcement by repeateldy stating that his position is "evolving".

    This is a very risky move, and I believe a sign of desperation.
    Also another fine example of flip-flopping, something that we've gotten used to from canidates on both sides.

    Feel free (as I already know you do :lol:) to express personal belief opinions, but what I'm really interested in is;

    How do people think this will effect his quest for those electoral votes on a state by state basis?
    http://www.270towin.com/

    This also (by design of course) places Romney in a position to have to defend his current traditionalist values.
    Could work well for Romney in capturing some older center of the road democrats and right-wingers who are a bit dissapointed in their respective nominees,
    and it can make Romney look like a mean old man to the younger demographic.


    Here it is;

    http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/obama-affirms-support-for-same-sex-marriage-29242313.html
     
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    I always find it weird how Americans are seemingly all for equal rights except when it comes to people who arent straight.
     
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    He won't get North Carolinas bigoted, shitheaded vote.
     
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    don't be so quick to generalize!

    it's really a regional thing at this point who supports what when it comes to social issues in the states

    it's hard to find someone in my area ignorant enough to side against same sex marraige
     
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    Well we are hypocrites :lol:
     
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    Equal treatment under the law isn't a social issue, it's a civil rights issue.
     
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    I don't think it's a sign of desperation.

    I would be thrilled if he did, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    I feel the same way man. I don't see an issue with two gay people wanting to get married.
     
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    Yeah for sure, but compared to most wealthy & free nations the US ov A's stance on gay marriage is surprisingly backwards. Even the descrepency between Canadian and American stances on social issues is surprising. What always shocks me though is when minorities dont support equal rights for gays/trans/etc... Because its exactly like racial discrimination
     
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    I agree with that, what sucks is the people I have talked to here in Texas throw the whole bible thing into the mix to justify the ban on gay marriage.
     
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    I'm sick of being treated like a second class citizen.
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    And he supports it. Good for him. He's stressing that he's leaving it up to states to determine this stuff, though. That's unfortunate, as North Carolina has shown us.

    Now we need to get DOMA completely off the books.
     
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    Also, take a glimpse at Fox's headline for their article covering the issue before they rushed off to change it for obvious reasons:


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    Americans have a strange sense of individualism. I also know many homophobic racial minorities, racist homosexuals, sexist women, xenophobic immigrants, etc. People tend to see their particular struggle as unique, and are often willing to tolerate having someone discriminate them as long as they too have someone to discriminate against.

    Some people remain married to imaginary social hierarchies.
     
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    Also, despite all the hate Federal Government gets (justified), I think that more often than not, states rights is the problem when it comes to social/civil rights issues. I'm for Democracy, but not for democratizing the rights of minorities.
     
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    Having the majority VOTE on the rights of a minority is fucking bullshit.
     
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    There should be a wide line seperating a representative democracy from an aristocracy, but it's things like that that essentially destroy that line.

    Stay classy, Fox.
     
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