NPD: Revv G3 Pedal

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  1. LeviathanKiller

    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    So I ordered a Revv G3. So far I'm not digging it honestly. It only starts to get enough treble once I max the knob it. Maybe my preferred sound is really treble-y and not normal? Idk

    I'm using an OwnHammer Mesa V60 MDRN-05 impulse loaded in the Axe-Fx III for both the Axe-Fx amp model and the Revv G3 by itself. I bought the Revv G3 to use alone with a Mooer Radar for a portable store-in-the-guitar-case rig.

    Here's my normal Axe-Fx III tone
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/6kfcyl4m43h56gr/20181205_190915_axe-fx.mp3/file
    A normal T808 boost and then the following amp settings
    Gain: 3.5
    Bass: 5
    Mid: 4.6
    Treble: 5.8
    High Treble: .72dB
    Presence: 4


    Here's what I'm getting from the Revv G3
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/24i7ctgyaa7ulru/20181205_190915_revvG3.mp3/file
    Gain: 1.5 o'clock
    Bass: 10.5 o'clock
    Mid: 10.5 o'clock
    Treble: 3 o'clock

    Should I return and buy something else?
     
  2. LeviathanKiller

    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    Actually, I know it can't be that my Axe-Fx III patch is just super treble-y because I've downloaded plenty of presets from Axe-Change that all sound about the same in terms of basic EQ. They're not muffled sounding like this pedal is so far.
     
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    how much have you played around with the eq on the g3? i'd say just keep tweaking and try bumping up the treble and cutting more bass. also try messing around w the aggression switch
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    I've tried just about every combo possible on the EQ. Aggression switch on blue was the best.
     
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    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    Did the manual say anything about how the eq interacts?

    Can it run 18v?
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    It had some starter settings but that was about it.

    I don't know if it can run 18v but I have no way of doing so anyway.
     
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    try a different IR :shrug:
     
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    I've tried so many dude lol
    I have tried at least 50 IRs in total from different producers, varying levels of brightness, and so forth
     
  9. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Is the G3 JFET? I find sometimes JFET pedals in general tend to be darker compared to real amps.

    Like, with my AMT SS30, I crank the treble and scoop the mids rather extreme-ly.
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    I tried Googling but to no avail. :s
     
  11. FitRocker33

    FitRocker33 My tone is tighter than my hamstrings

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    This sucks to hear about the pedal, because Revv’s full blown amps do actually live up to their hype.

    At Least that’s my opinion with the one I own (Generator 100P).
     
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    if you've truly exhausted the eq and IR options available to to you then I guess return the pedal.
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    Yeah I just can't figure out what to do with it


    I guess my only solution is to buy some other pedals and see if I have the same issue. Try to find out if it's just this one, or if it's just me.

    I'm thinking maybe a Mooer 005 Brown Sound 3 or 001 Gas Station
    If that's close I may get an AmpTweaker TightMetal series pedal

    I wish there was a good ENGL Savage pedal out there (maybe there is even)
     
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    Depth Finder?
     
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    You definitely won't be short on treble with the Mooer gas station, mine was very bright and harsh. I had the treble set at 0 and it was still a bit bright through an ISP stealth and a vintage 30 loaded cab.
     
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    From what I can tell, this is more of a distortion pedal to add to a clean platform rather than a full-blown preamp, which would explain the comparatively dark/flat sound. I know Ola played his through the power section of his amp, but he also had the option to crank the amp presence in addition to the controls on the pedal.

    Have you tried it in front of a clean amp model in the Axe FX or with power amp simulation on the Radar? That would also give you the option to tweak presence and depth before the IR too
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    I could do that (and thought about for a split second) but that would defeat why I got the thing in the first place, to use as a standalone device (with impulse responses).
    I requested and was granted a refund already so it's headed back soon.

    I purchased a Mooer Preamp Live instead of picking between all of the micro preamp models AND needing to get the Mooer Radar too which would've ended up being $200ish for the pair new in the end anyway. Another hundred or so to get all of the models seemed easier.
    YEEEEET :lol:
     
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    I can’t listen to the clips yet as I’m in work, but like @TheWarAgainstTime said, what you describe sounds like the results I get whenever I try to use a distortion pedal as a preamp.

    I know we like to pretend they’re the same thing, and some stuff can do both, but in my mind the difference lies 1.) in the volume on tap (preamps generally need to be louder) and 2.) the general eq - a distortion pedal is usually more mid-focused, rolled off high end and low end, which works way better into a clean channel than direct into a power amp. Direct into a power amp usually sounds honky and dull.

    Conversely, preamps and preamp pedals tend to be more hifi in their frequency response, much more lows and highs, which works great direct into a power amp, but leads to ‘box of bees’ syndrome (the metalzone effect) when you run it into a clean channel. The presence of a bright cap on the clean channel may also contribute to this, depending on the pedal.

    Sure some pedals have enough range on the eq, or enough extra settings and switches that they can do both. The vh4 pedal and AMT preamp pedals have two outputs, each one optimised for either a clean channel or for direct to power amp, and my ISP theta has enough range on the eq that it can do both. But most stuff isn’t that versatile, imo.
     
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    I do find that 90% of preamp/dist pedals need a boost in treble. Never have i come across a pedal that sounded complete on its own. Im usually cranking then full or close to it & then still run some sort of eq after the pedal to boost highs and lows.

    Wish they (pedal companies) just adjusted it so that the noon position of all pedals acted like 3 o' clock as the new norm. Like what crazy lunatics ever set any treble knob to anything below noon lol.... ..... No offence to all you lovely lunatics.
     
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    It was really my fault for misinterpreting the product and thinking it was usable as a standalone preamp lol
    Looking back, everyone I see using it, is doing it through an amp usually
     

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