NPD: Elysian Custom Pickups (Trident II)

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  1. Emperoff

    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Hi guys!

    This has been delayed for almost two months as I didn't have the guitar with me, but finally got it back and put them to test both live and in the studio. Impressions below, but first... pics!


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    Now that the porn is out, I'll share with you my thoughts about them:

    These are a Trident II set, with a few tweaks: Quilted maple bobbin tops, Alnico5/8 Configuration and wired with a Coil Swap mod. More onto this later.

    The grain of the tops is subtle but it goes along well with the top and look amazing in this guitar. Sound-wise they just click. The Aftermaths it had before sounded dreadful as they enhanced the natural frequencies of the guitar and everything was just too dry, bright and explosive. These have a ton of mids, but in the right place and they are not spikey at all. The guitar sounds incredible now as due to how the pickups are constructed: They sweetened the high strings while retaining the attack on the lower ones.

    The bridge is A8. It sounds quite agressive yet very lively sounding. The neck is sweeeet but not muddy. It also has much less output than the bridge pickup, which I didn't expect since the DC resistance between them is very small. It reminds me of a supercharged PAF pickup and it rocks for classic stuff and soulful soloing.

    Now the fun part. The Coil Swap mod...

    This mod was made popular by ArtieToo at the Seymour Duncan forums and basically consists of instead of a coil tap, it swaps the coils between neck and bridge pickups. This results in a different tonal palette without being too drastic nor losing volume or noise cancelling.

    For example, the neck pickup is warm and low gain by nature. You pull the knob and it swaps the lower coil for the bridge one, which results in boosted output and higher mids that together with the "open" sound of mismatched coils transform into a super clear and percussive sound that kills for full blast shredding. The opposite happens at the bridge. It gets chunkier and less powerful, which rules for hard rock or backing rythm tones over a solo.

    Although this mod is not exclusive for this pickups, I think it really shines with them due to the mismatched coil design Adam uses on them. It can work with everything, and the more mismatched the pickups are, the more noticieable the results.

    All in all, I certainly reccommend these babies to anyone. Adam does excellent work and you won't be dissappointed by the tone these put out!
     
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  2. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire despair ahead

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    HNPD, nice to see more elysian users around here. the tridents are my favorite pickups that adam makes and one of my favorite pickups in general. they're so good.
     
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    Nice to know that you are enjoying those new pickups, more so having them loaded with AlNiCo magnets on a 7 stringer. I used to be a DiMarzio guy, but a year ago I thought that I should try out some AlNiCo loaded pickups and asked a local builder for some, mainly due to me wanting them in white (no luck with that on production pickups around here, specially on the 7 string market). Fast forward to now, I have ordered 3 sets from him, all AlNiCo 5 (it seams he can't have AlNiCo 8 for 7 stringers...) with medium wound coils. Such clarity an punch... love them.

    On that mod you've said, it seams that you engage an OUTER COIL combo, meaning that only the outer coils are working, right? How are they mixed, in series or parallel? I find that the Outer Coil in series sounds a bit out of phase and the Inner coil in series to be more like a middle Humbucker, a nice in between moment from full neck or full bridge. As for a parallel mix between those coils, I also tend to prefer the Inner coil mix, but mostly because of habit I guess...?
     
  4. Emperoff

    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Nope. That's not what It does. It selects inner from one pickup and outer fron the other. In series. You can do It two ways but It only cancels hum in one of them.
     
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    Those look great in the guitar. Glad you're liking them!
     
  6. lurè

    lurè Thy Art Is Mambo

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    Gasing very hard for a set of Elysian pickups. HNPD.
    I love the fact that you can choose the magnet for each type of pickup.
     
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    Ok, tks. You probably have the pickup's North coils in the outside, this means that for hum canceling one inner and one outer must be connected. In that set up, inner or outer coils will not cancel hum. I have my guitars' coil polarity alternating from north to south. This gives me inner or outer with hum canceling tones.
     
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    very nice. You’ve reminded me that I meant to get a set of Elysians for my Mayones a while back, but something always comes up.
     
  9. JustinRhoads1980

    JustinRhoads1980 SS.org Regular

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    I have seen a lot of talk about these pickups. Looks like I will have to add these to my list of pickups that I plan to try and experiment with that are not actives
     
  10. LeviathanKiller

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    What is this guitar?

    I'm planning on getting the Trident I set with alnico 5 magnets soon. Just can't decide if they should go in my 27" scale or 28.625" scale. SD Alpha/Omega set would go in the one the Tridents don't go in.
     
  11. Emperoff

    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Despite its Kiesel Aries appearance, it's actually a Jackson B7 Custom Shop. Maple neckthru, ash body, ebony board, 27".

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    More pics and NGD thread in case you're interested (ss.org thread has dissappeared it seems, but it was also posted here):
    https://www.metalguitarist.org/foru...cussion/97233-ngd-jackson-b7-custom-shop.html

    I can't recommend the A8 Trident II bridge pickup enough. It absolutely slays in a 27" bright guitar. But the A5 Trident II neck also slays... Oh well... The Trident II winds are fatter and put out more output than the "I" versions. Adam insisted on those when I asked for a Trident I on the neck, and he was goddammn right. The bridge pickup is similar to a Duncan JB in terms of output.
     
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    LeviathanKiller Knee-shooting Archer

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    You may have just convinced me to go with Trident IIs over the Is
     
  13. JustinRhoads1980

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    Jacksons are the WAY TO GO!!! Especially the usa's! Right on my man
     

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