NHL 2009-2010 Thread

Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by troyguitar, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. Hollowman

    Hollowman SS.org Regular

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    Honestly being a Pens fan I really don't expect you too when your team has done this with Crosby and Malkin however , Detroit has made this a common practice sine the 90's but in the same sense they have found great player in remote places in the world.:lol: I'm hoping that Mclean takes and gives him the green light to just play the way he plays but. and this being the big but.. McLean was part of Lamaires defensive system and since I never had chance to actually see him coach and see if he uses that same approach.
     
  2. Unknown Doodl3.2

    Unknown Doodl3.2 look at each other..

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    ^I'm not a Pens fan, and I don't see how Crosby or Malkin's contracts are in any way in similar violation of the collective agreement as the Kovalchuckles or Hossa or Loungo. Crosby's cap hit is 8.7 million dollars a year... not 5

    BTW, why did we sign Halpern?
     
  3. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Actually, I just took the time to look it up, Crosby and Malkin IIRC have identical contracts. Crosby's contract was for 5 years and $43.5 million dollars with a yearly cap hit of $8.7 million... 43.5 / 8 = 8.7. That's going by these articles

    Penguins, Crosby Agree to Long-Term Contract Extension - washingtonpost.com
    Sidney Crosby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    According to this the numbers per year in millions are

    Penguins sign Crosby to five-year extension

    08-09 $9
    09-10 $9
    10-11 $9
    11-12 $9
    12-13 $7.5

    for a cap hit of $8.7 so the cap hit is off of actual salary by a whopping $300,000 per season.

    Compare that to the Kovalchuk deal where
    1) he will likely be retired before the end of the contract
    2) the difference between actual salary and cap hit is >$3 million for the majority of the contract... maybe I'm biased but I do not consider that to be the same at all. You can't sign a player to an entry level contract for $300,000. For $3 million you can sign a good player who can make a difference to you team's performance :2c:

    Like I said, the system needs reevaluated. Maybe they need to establish a minimum variance between salary and cap hit. Maybe they need to limit contract length. Bottom line is teams are exploiting the current system and it needs to be fixed :2c:

    PS - Aaron Asham :wallbash: but on the bright side the Pens signed Mike Comrie so you take the good with the bad. I would have honestly preferred to see one of the prospects get a chance to play as opposed to signing Asham...
     
  4. Hollowman

    Hollowman SS.org Regular

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    $300,000 per game if he was getting 8.7 mil a season or something that equates to that right? also, biased is a good thing the Pens are your team the Devils are mine. Kovachuk's contract is front loaded so toward the end it is a less of a hit verses a larger lump sum toward the end of his career which means toward the end they could potentially buy him out before he retires. and I don't disagree with anything your saying about contracts. personally, I think any/ever athlete is over paid and salary caps are a good thing to keep a somewhat level playing field.

    Asham was a good role player for Philly. not a stellar player but...if it was up to me I would have resigned Jagr since he said he'd play for the Pens for minimum and at least he could retire where he started.

    What do you think about the Habs signing Halpern?
     
  5. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    My issue with Asham is that the Pens really don't NEED another role player... as for Jagr he sort of burned his bridges in Pittsburgh before he got traded by incessantly complaining about the fans and the organization. There was a reason he got boos every time he stepped onto the ice after he left here :lol:

    Honestly I don't know a lot about Halpern, so I can't really comment on that.
     
  6. JeffFromMtl

    JeffFromMtl Уродливый, но честны

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    I don't know much about Halpern either, but from what I hear, he's similar to Moore, but a bit bigger, more physical and more solid defensively, albeit with a little less offensive upside. I liked Moore a lot, but Halpern's $600,000 contract is less than half of what it would have cost to keep Moore in Montreal, so I haven't got a problem with the signing. We'll see how things pan out, though.
     
  7. playstopause

    playstopause Contributor

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    ^

    This, plus he's a face-off specialist. Remember how much fail we had in that department last year, especially in the playoffs?
     
  8. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    If that's the case Halpern should help the Habs a lot :agreed:
     
  9. Xaios

    Xaios Foolish Mortal Contributor

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    As a Canucks fan, even though they kinda fell apart against Chicago, I'm still happy Hank got the Hart Trophy. Makes me glad that I've stuck with the Canucks through thick and thin ever since I was 10 years old.

    I'm also looking forward to see what the twins can do this season. :D
     
  10. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    We just got three tickets to the Pens-Canucks game and have a friend of ours coming in from Vancouver for the game. Should be a blast :yesway:
     
  11. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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  12. TheDivineWing22

    TheDivineWing22 You've got the touch

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    I was just reading that, hopefully he makes a quick recovery. Since its Staal Im expecting it to be haha.
     
  13. Speedy

    Speedy SS.org Regular

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    Haha... Kinda hard to prove anything in the play-offs when you are playing for Atlanta Trashers :lol:

    I've read much about Devils' new look. I think they have realized they just can't shut the opposition down, which has shown on the last couple of years as a lame play-off success. That is why I'm really looking forward how Devils get their game going. I hope Zajac, Parise, Kovy, Elias and Langenbrunner get their chemistry to work.. They can be really magical.

    I'm also interested to see how the Sharks are going to perfor with no Nabby. Nabokov has never showed of at the post season, so now with two feasty Finns it gets interesting :scratch: And the Caps... Ofcourse. Sure they do score, but is Varlamov ready for to be a full time no. 1, and is the defensive unit solid enough. I think Vancouver looks really good with the moves they made during the offseason.
     
  14. JeffFromMtl

    JeffFromMtl Уродливый, но честны

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    I'm not overly concerned about the Sharks. Nabokov was simply a fairly consistent goaltender who had the luxury of playing for an elite team for many years. Whoever they have in the net, they'll be just fine. Look at the Detroit team that won a handful of cups with Mike Vernon and Chris Osgood in the net. Neither of those guys were all-stars by any stretch, just an attestation to how a bit of consistent goaltending can go a long way on a well-rounded team.
     
  15. mattofvengeance

    mattofvengeance Team Ibanez

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    Yes, a well rounded team of choke artists. That team will never win anything with that core.
     

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