NFL Football 2014-2015

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  1. pushpull7

    pushpull7 Banned

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    Here's a story, of a man named brady, who was deflating ball and won the game by a bunch...

    So though they made my year, and beat the shehawks, he's now suspended for for games. All the haters, they'll be happy because unsexy rexy now is the odds-on favorite to win that division (though I'm not buying it) but somehow I think they'll survive.

    The next "gate" will be "wildcard gate" where the hoody will film rexy in the locker room doing his "I'm so sexy" dance to pump up the troops. Thus the Patriots beating rex and being fined 2 million dollars and 6 draft picks.
     
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    After appeal it will most likely be reduced to a two game suspension.

    I think it's just plain goofy to care about a pound or two pressure. This is football, I thought.

    I really don't think anyone should get to pick their balls anyways, except maybe lineman:lol:.

    How about having a single game ball that's used for everything. Wipe it as we go. I know kicking and punting can slightly warp the ball, but again, this isn't knitting class.
     
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    Oh, I totally agree. The thing is that there WERE texts that were intercepted with him knowing about it in a very "devious" manner. Couple that with the history of the Putriots and walla! There you are.

    Still, I'm VERY thankful that they beat the "greatest show on turf" and then "terrel owens" and then again "sheattle shehawks" in the superbowl. UGGGG, it's like voting in elections :lol: You vote for "terrible" because the other side is even worse! :ugh:
     
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    I hope he still just denies it 100%. I almost bet he does:lol:.
    Anyways, yeah i'm right with you on the Bowl, I really loved seeing the hawks get theirs plus I've been a Pats fan from the Welker days forward (doesn't hurt that their games are on TV almost every week no matter where you live, and it's not like d'bears are ever making a serious run with ....ler).
    I couldn't stand the Pats in their glory years after 911, but now that they've kind of became the league bad guy(LBG:lol:) I like them more and more every year. They do so much with all these relatively little white guys :lol:, although it's not like they're slow, Danny Woodhead ran a 4.3 out of collage.
     
  5. Randy

    Randy Ooh, Degrasse Tyson-son Super Moderator

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    Is that who they're favoring? I mean, you know who I root for but even objectively, I still think it's probably the Patriots, the Dolphins and then everyone else.

    On paper, I don't think the Bills look much better than last year... still totally pieced together, no real scheme outside of defense. Also, Marrone had a better track record when coaching 'bits and pieces' teams than Rex. :2c:
     
  6. VBCheeseGrater

    VBCheeseGrater not quite a shredder

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    ESPN has the Fins as the favorites. For once, ESPN gets it right.

    But yeah, eff Brady and the pats. I know it's a small infraction, but they have a history of cheating, trying to get one over on the opponent, and whining like a bitch at referees.

    I hope the 4 games stands - lately these types of punishments seem to stay put rather than get reduced - although every radio guy is stating otherwise.
     
  7. USMarine75

    USMarine75 Doc McStuffins Contributor

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    Unlike every single WR on every single play? :lol:

    I think if you wave your hand in the air calling for a flag it should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, or at the very least delay of game 5 yards. That .... annoys me!

    Oh and at least Brady does his complaining on the field, unlike Bill Polian who was on the rules committe and literally had the rules changed to benefit his team. :noway:
     
  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Intrepid Jackass

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    I think it's a farce ('cuz ahm a wicked homah, right?!), but the Brady suspension was the product of two unwinnable situations on a collision course.

    The Patriots, post Spygate, are never going to get the benefit of the doubt from anyone; even when they do stuff that isn't illegal like their no huddle or the eligible receiver subs, they get semi-accused of cheating (by the Jets and Ravens, respectively). People probably think that Belichick decides the shape of the ice cubes in the opposing team's Gatorade for competitive advantage.

    On the other side, Goodell is obviously a hot mess as a commish and has probably been aching for a new issue to show consistency (since domestic violence suspensions are all over the place) and that he's not looking to f***-around. Here, he has a potential rules violation so he can get all haughty with The Integrity of the Game, 31 NFL markets that will love him for bringing the hammer down, and the opportunity to show that he's no owner's stooge. The preliminary belief was that this was going to be swept under the rug because he and Bob Kraft were buddies- nobody's thinking that now! Oh, and when Kraft was all kinds of arrogant prior to the Superbowl, requesting his apology in advance PLUS the death-stare he gave Goodell when the Lombardi was presented... oof... there must be some satisfaction in humiliating Kraft for that dickishness by suspending- and forever marring the reputation of- his superstar.
     
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    Not to downplay the seriousness of domestic violence in any way, but it kind of annoys me that the NFL tries to get out ahead of these cases (at least now they seem to be trying).
    How about just letting the cases play out in court first (or not if it's squashed by authorities before it even goes to trial) then dishing out the proper punishment based on whatever quilt is established in his/her criminal case.
    I just think it's crazy and unjust to suspend anyone before they've even had their day in court. To take away a person's right to make a living at their current job when they're still legally presumed innocent is IMO jumping the gun. Despite what evidence the league gathers on it's own it still should be considered unverified until there is an official legal ruling on the matter.


    As for Brady's legacy, I think he'll be forever linked to this, but in terms of the "shadow" it will cast I think it to be more in the realm of Pete Rose HAD it been established with no doubt that Pete had only bet on his own team and had always attempted in every possible way to indeed win every game.
    In reality I don't think it was ever established beyond doubt that Pete was always in it to win it (the actual games not the betting:lol:), so Pete's legacy as a manager has remained questionable in every way, and rightfully so.

    In other words I think once a little time goes by (like even later next season) that most fans in-general will view it as just "trying to win" as opposed to "cheating to win". Like a pitcher who gets caught wetting the ball a bit now and then, like it's just part of the game even though it is by definition "cheating".
     
  10. Randy

    Randy Ooh, Degrasse Tyson-son Super Moderator

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    What Tom Brady's life looks like, as he's reflecting on his suspension and how this scandal effects his legacy.

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    ...I'm sure he's having a lot of trouble getting sleep. :lol:
     
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    I made the mistake of watching quite a bit of NFL channel recently (kinda a carryover from watching the draft coverage) and they seem to be of the ilk that since it's rex (over-rated as a head coach imo) they are the favs. Also, they are counting the jets as being a year or two away (not quite sure about that) and Miami losing too much offensively (plus they were in the hunt the last two years and choked during the most important time.

    I agree though that the Pats are still the favs personally. Plus, bratty will get less games (as has been mentioned, especially with that one guru lawyer he just hired)
     
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    :lol:

    For certain ;)
     
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    Checkout the gronk on espn today...

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    Pablo Resident Wanker

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    As a Giants fan, I really don't have much against the Patriots... :evil:

    Now, with that out of the way, on to Brady's "matyrdom"...

    Let's look at the simple stuff first: Deflated game balls are easier for the QB to grip and easier for the receivers to catch. The NFL has rules that govern air pressure in game balls and it is the responsibility of the team that the game balls are within league specs. The Wells report states that it is "more likely than not", that the Patriots deliberately deflated game balls below the required pressure.

    Now for the obvious question: Did the deflated balls change the outcome of the Colts game? Absolutely not! Does it matter? Absolutely not - The Patriots cheated to gain an advantage and should be punished severely for it.

    Now for a nagging question from the nice people of Baltimore: Could deflated game balls have influenced the outcome of the Divisional Round against the Ravens? In a tight game like that - absolutely!!!

    In my book, the four-game suspension is laughable - just like the NFL's PED penalties, they practically encourage cheating! In cycling a first time PED offender gets a 2-year suspension, in the NFL? A maximum of 6 games, which is virtually always reduced to 4... moral high ground my arse!!!

    What would be a reasonable penalty? Well, when Tour de France winners were caught cheating to gain an advantage, they were stripped of their titles and given hefty suspensions... In my European mindset, the Patriots should loose their championship and Brady should be awarded at least a 1-year suspension.

    Moreover, I really don't understand how Belichick avoided a suspension... Sean Payton got a full year's suspension, despite the fact that the investigation proved that he had NO knowledge of the bounty program. Why? Because as a head coach, it is allways your resposibilty how your team handles itself... Hence, following the precedence of Bountygate: deflategate is Belichick's responsibility... and he gets away scot-free :wallbash:

    Moreover, as a European football fan, I never quite understood the mish-mash of on and off the field descrepancies investigated by the NFL.
    Specifically, I see people comparing Ray Rice's casino incident with Deflategate (i.e. is deflating footballs really worse than domestic violence).
    In Europe, this wouldn't even be a discussion: domestic violence is a criminal offense and a matter for the judicial system, wheras a deflated football would be something for the league to look into. Does this mish-mash by popular demand work? Post-Hernandez (another Patriot, incidentally), the answer to this question must be a clear and resounding NO!

    Cheers

    Eske

    P.s.: Just read the Patriots' defense web page... They seem to focus an awfull lot on the Ideal Gas Law range... yet seem to forget that it is STILL solely their responsibility that their game balls comply with the rules for the duration of the game!
     
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    It's a mess. I love the game, I hate the nonsense, and yet I'm caught up in it.

    Anyways, pretty soon it will be like that movie where a guy just comes out and blows the other guy away with a gun and then silver and (whomever) will bitch and debate about what should/shouldn't happen.
     
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    Not to be a necrobumper, but wouldn't it be an appropriate time to make the official thread for the new season?
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    So post one and I'll sticky it :lol:
     

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