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Discussion in 'Extended Range Guitars' started by HeHasTheJazzHands, Nov 7, 2015.
Ibanez, for example.
as pointed out in this thread already...ibanez and a lot of the japanese brands used to be all about making tons of wacky crazy stuff.
One of my favorite things to do at NAMM is see what ESP has chained at the top of the wall.
This. It's nice to throw out companies like fast and Skerv but there is no way in hell Tosin would be giving up a deal with Ibanez for them. He gets paid with his sig deals for his TAM's, he'll only go for a company that can mass produce ala Schecter, Ibanez, ESP.
For all we know it could well be Schecter, if they're not allowed to say just now, then people like Keith might just say "Yea it's not"
I really think this is most likely the case, it just doesn't look like something any other brand could produce or would produce in the price range that's being hinted at.
maybe its a new company something like Solar?....
also I dont think hes doing this for the money, granted its an extra income, but not one to huge. How many of TAM100 you think were actually sold?, apart from the couple in this forum?. I know theres a bigger number than we think, but prob not even close to a RG premium model would be. And the higher price wont balance it out either.
Artist not only they get a cut from it of course, but they also get either a free guitar or a heavily discounted one, plus service, ect. I think its not about the money but about the relationship between the brand and the artist what he might like better. Maybe hes just got along better with other builder rather than with Ibanez. Something as simple as a builder being exited, happy and open to his ideas, and sharing some though would play far better than a big brand saying "yeh" to Tosin. A more direct friendlier approach would play better than a more formal one. Or who knows really, no idea how those companies work behind doors.
It also plays a company willing to give him what he wants rather than putting limitations. Something like Head, he wanted evertune/fishmans, maybe Ibanez said "no". He also wanted to start fresh with something fully different tho. So maybe Tosin wanted something Ibanez said "no" to him??, maybe not on the crazy shape/specs since they build him 3 prototypes, but maybe in the "if you want that finish we have to sell it in $$$$$ like your TAM100, if you want affordable guitar you can pick a black one..."
The TAM's were the best looking 8 string Ibanez ever made imo!.
I would have loved one new but they were pricey! Still see a few on the used market every now and again though.
Well, I wouldn't say they aren't in the market for it, but every year they show what could be done (*cough* for the right price *cough*). That being said if this new prototype is made by ESP, I would think only his prototype would look that flamboyant. Production guitar would most likely be black. And not even saying that to be snarky. Just because it would make most sense to make it black.
Also, per artist interviews, whether it's Hetfield, Carpenter, Kelliher, or the guy with the pizza & taco guitars, ESP is apparently great to deal with. And I would think if ESP is willing to make a pizza/taco guitar, they'd be more than willing to match Tosin's Ibanez prototype without hesitation. Their artist roster is already pretty killer (especially if you include non-US artists). And, Tosin would only be another great addition for them, especially to gain more attention/influence in prog guitarist realm.
My only hangup with this being an ESP is that it doesn't say ESP on the front of the headstock. That being said, there's precedent of ESP only putting their logo on the back, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Or to not have it on it at all. Nergal's Hex 6 has a blank headstock.
Or maybe he just broke it and had it replaced?
That’s what I was said. The ESP logo is not on the front of the headstock. It’s on the back only.
Umm I think you may have just found the headstock most similar to Tosins...That looks like where Tosins could've started.
Also He has plenty of time to play ESP production and custom shop considering Javier has both.
Yeah Ken Lawrence’s are $7500 explorers (as of like 8 years ago). Not nasa engine parts.
Just too small a shop for production models (pricing aside).
I've seen some going for 10k like the blue shark explorer
Guys you're all wrong, it can't be an ESP, if it were there'd be a big rectangle on the twelfth fret that would say something like "TA-11045" or "Suk it Ibanez"
They’ve actually seemed to have done away with the block at the 12th this year.
I’d like the block is they just always said “ESP” on the inlay.
12th fret block inlay always looks terrible.
If it goes in to production, I hope they keep that super tight spacing. I'm probably in the minority with that though.
That would be straight up awesome.
Highly doubt Keith is starting his own company considering he's about to release several new sigs with Schecter, and I hardly think he would go in to direct competition with his friend, they would have more to gain going in partnership.