New Fortin-designed Hiwatt/Maxwatt amp

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  1. prlgmnr

    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    I had put a lot of hope in a) single channel design b) being built 70 miles away from me rather than 5000 miles away with attendant import costs c) the prices of all the other Hiwatt models leading to d)this being a lot, lot, lot less than, say, a Friedman BE

    edit: ok this has two channels
     
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    KnightBrolaire gearwhoricus americanus

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    :shrug: I guess it was wishful thinking on my part. Oh well, back to lusting over the MI Gamma and the KSR ares.
     
  3. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    So again, you were expecting it to be the same price as the Custom 50?

    It's not really worth arguing about but it really does seem like most guys on here have really unrealistic expectations most of the time. I don't find the pricing on this shocking or out of line at all. More than I had hoped? Sure... but not out of line in the boutique high gain market.
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    I wasn't EXPECTING anything, I was hoping.

    I don't think the price is unreasonable or anything.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    MASS DEFECT SS.ORG Infiltrator

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    Ay. 3500 is too much. Oh well, I guess I'm back to targeting a Triple Crown 100 or a KSR.
     
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    narad SS.org Regular

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    I don't want to say it's out of line, but just at the upper edge of acceptable. No one's going to consider me particularly frugal when it comes to amp purchases... I'm sitting in front of 6 of them and another 2 are coming next month. But there are some amps, like Diezel Vh4s or Engl SEs, where I'm like...who has ever bought one of these new? Obviously someone does, but I've actually never met one. Maybe they buy them on sale? It seems we just cycle the same used ones, that work their way down from $4.2-4.5k to $2-2.5k. I was hoping this new amp wouldn't be one of that group, especially given its feature set.

    You know, it's like, do you want to be a company like Wizard putting out $5k amps that probably makes like 25 a year, or something that actually sees widespread adoption?

    Curious if this is some pumped up US dealer pricing or if it's any cheaper ordering from the UK directly, as it is with Diezel/Engl.
     
  8. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    I also think there is going to be a production version that will be cheaper, since they seem to do the Custom line which are hand-wired in the UK and normal line which I'm not sure about the origin of. Not sure if that is the Super-Hi series talked about on the Hiwatt UK site or not.
     
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    HiwattUKofficial SS.org Regular

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    Hi mnemonic,

    We have confirmed today that the UK price will be £2499.

    Thanks for all the feedback everyone.
     
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    That’s not too bad if it’s a 2 channel amp. Could you also confirm the uk price for the dr504 custom 50.
     
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    ah its out of my budget sadly.
    Still, i will look out for the threads when these get in the hands of new owners. They sound so good.
    shame im poor haha.
    @OliOliver £2499 dude.
     
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    Eep. That's outta my range. It'd probably be cheaper to send my Engl off to be modded by Fortin himself, haha.
     
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    yeah :( shame.

    And agreed hahahaha.
     
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    >"Judging by the buzz it has generated I think we'll be building quite a lot of these!"
    >3500$
    >nope.vst
     
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    Buzz is conditional, and I think if any indication of the true price was available around the time the clips leaked out, there'd have been a lot less of it. Hate to be the naysayer, but who would have thought a priori that a single channel amp was going to hit $3.5k?
     
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    Tisca Big-tube snob

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    Or be like me and not realize the word "custom" added to the name will automatically triple the price. I just looked at some Hiwatt prices on Reverb. =)
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    I guess there's so little alternative when it comes to British-built amps that it's hard to get an idea of what the price "should" be.

    The Hamstead Artist 60 is looking like a bargain right now at 1999, anyway
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    That would be the difference between hand wired in the UK and mass produced in China from what I have been able to find... which is pretty typical actually. You see the same thing with US companies that offer both options.
     
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    I mean, Matamp are hand-wired in the UK and not anywhere near this price. Orange has a bit more economies of scale, but weren't they similarly hand-wiring a bunch of their line in the UK?

    Fortin designed is great, but I can't allocate too much value to it (like $1k extra) when there's a slew of Randalls that are as well and in the $1-1.8k range.
     
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    Tisca Big-tube snob

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    How about a compromise, hand wired in China with cheaper labor =). I'll take a MIC version gladly.
     
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