New BKP Ragnarok

Discussion in 'Pickups, Electronics & General Tech' started by chopeth, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Lemonbaby

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    Really hard to tell how they sound from the Youtube demo. Misha seems to use a strongly EQ'd distortion patch. While the EQ chart on BKP's website shows that the Ragnarok to be rather bassy, it sounds scooped and fizzy in this case... :scratch:
     
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  2. lewis

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    why dont Pickup companies provide DI tracks for free when they release pickups.?
    Including a description of the materials the guitar that laid them down, was built from.

    Would be alot simpler to work out ourselves what they sounded like before buying and also would shed way more light on their provided EQ chart descriptions.
     
  3. USMarine75

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    Now hold up... are you trying to say that people post YT demos that are overly processed and not indicative of how the actual product might sound?
     
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    Rabea may help us a bit.
     
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    i dunno how this would be more helpful then yt demos. if you listen to enough yt demos you get a rough idea of the processing tricks being used...
    a di is really going to be no more indicative of what the pickups actually sound like in your guitar.
     
  6. Lemonbaby

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    Haha, good point. But seriously, I'd like if they played a few other PUs through their setup for reference. With a baseline for comparison, listeners could judge easier how the PU sounds...

    +1 for DI tracks I can feed into my own setup. :mike:
     
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  7. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire baritone6/8 string hoarder

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    Some yt gear demoers like fluff used to include DIs whenever he'd do pickup demos. No idea if he still does.
     
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    Ok, any other humbucker recommendations for my guitar? Schecter JFL7 with EMG 707 on a solid ash body with maple neck. Tonez the brootz!
     
  9. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire baritone6/8 string hoarder

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    black dogs, duncan omegas, warpigs, elysian hot moderns, avedissian scythe, duncan black winter. any of those will melt faces and work really well for metal.
     
  10. getowned7474

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    I might pick up one of these to compare to the Dimarzio titan I have. I think it might be cool to try something with a little more grind/aggression to it than the titan.
     
  11. marcwormjim

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    Because it would undermine the industry-foundation myth that you can buy your way out of how you sound (in this case, with a transducer so inaccurate as to make you sound like someone else).

    Consider the gain stages and effects utilized in Misha's signal path for the sake of demoing the first component in that signal path, and why everything after it was deemed necessary to hide it behind, and you come out equipped to be skeptical of everyone else prescribing the electromagnet you need to sound less like yourself and more like whoever you would rather be.

    Even if you ignore the narrative and try to infer performance based on specs, the pickup industry is fond of presenting D.C. resistance as "output" and divulging which commercial category of iron alloy their magnet supplier put on the invoice.

    But that's just how 1950s pickup technology is marketed in the 21st century. So long as you're getting your info from anywhere but this site, it can be parsed and navigated.
     
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    It's my inferior intellect that makes me an intellectual.
     
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    I want to hear some comparisons but the initial video sounds great. Picked up a pro series ht6 the other day so I guess we know what pickup is going in it lol.
     
  14. Smoked Porter

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    I don't have experience with lower output pickups for metal, but I've been curious for awhile. The way you're selling them above has me thinking about the Black Dog for my 7 in drop G. Do you find that you have to fight or really hammer the strings to get a big metal sound though? I'm no bitch picker, but I wouldn't put my right hand in the class of Hetfield or John Browne either.
     
  15. KnightBrolaire

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    no you don't have to smash the strings with them. I'm a very light picker. That's part of why I hate the juggs (besides their cocked wah voicing) you have to smash the strings or really pump the gain to get the kind of sounds I want out of them. I've got some clips of the black dog here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d1fw42rqz69lgy7/AABiCZfo-RrGWMThJVrXPaQwa?dl=0
     
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    Hell... on paper it looks better than my cpig... which I love! but that bit more of mids and less output would be perfect for more techy metal in the guitar of my avatar, faster attack response probably, but it's not even a year since I got the warpig...
     
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    placed an order after watching rabea's video for em and listening critically to the demos on the website (much better idea there than in the Misha video).

    impulsivity got the best of me so I dunno if they'll stick around, but I'll have demos and di's once they're in.

    sent a few emails back and forth with someone at bkp and their customer service is absolutely killer if anyone's curious. I was expecting them to be swamped by the misha product launch (and they are), but the guy helping me out was super quick and attentive
     
  18. KnightBrolaire

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  19. possumkiller

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    Way too long to read. Am I the only one disappointed that the name Ragnarok wasn't reserved for the BKP answer to the Black Winter?
     
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  20. LeviathanKiller

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    Since when has not owning said gear prevented someone from recommending it in the past? :lol:


    Not happy with my Aftermath set (or at least the neck pup), so I may consider this set or neck later on
     

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