New Amp Head? (Mesa Mark V 25 vs ???)

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    I reaaaaaallly love the 2C+ voicing on the mini Marks. Somewhere not too modern and not too vintage.
     
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    The crunch on Ch1 of the 25/35 also has a lot of gain on tap, not 5150 levels but quite a bit more than AC/DC crunch. The foot switch on the 25 (25 too?), lets you turn the GEQ on and off, but it's a very important part of getting a "mark" tone. Guessing 99%+ of owners would be using the GEQ most of the time for high gain tones.

    And like budda said, don't expect the lower wattage versions to be much quieter. CH2 in either IV or extreme modes is pretty twitchy when you go from TV volumes to a slight twitch of the master & having someone yelling at you.

    And Marks aren't for everyone. They do offer a wide variety of tones, but if you're looking at the very saturated gain from a 6505 it may not be what you want. Then again, throw a good clean boost in front and maybe it will work for you. I'm using a Grid Slammer in front of mine and love it :p
     
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    I've gotten the chance to play a mark v 25 watt before and I thought that it was pretty stellar. I loved the cleans and thought that the crunch and leads were pretty amazing, I've yet to find a 90 watt head that is close enough to the same price point though
     
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    If you're dead set on Mesa then go for it!

    If you're open to new possibilities, Revv Amplification has been making some pretty big waves lately. The Generator 7-40 may be the droid you're looking for. Toss it on to a pretty nice 2x12 (Orange and Egnater come to mind) and you're set for both practice sessions and jams with your buds!
     
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    the new low wattage mark are awesome. Don't hesitate!! they are awesome and do really come close to their bigger brothers
     
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    I really want to sell/trade my 5150 III 50 watt for a Mark V:25. The EVH is great for for super saturated modern tones, but is not near as versatile as my old Mark III. I miss the fantastic cleans and buttery smooth lead tones. The EVH is kinda meh for these.

    The only thing I'm weary of is the el-84 power section of the V:25. I want to be able to use it in a band situation with it farting out.
     
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    I thought the Mark V 25 was the PERFECT at home/studio/recording amp. Just sounds so damn good and records SO easily. Its downfall for me was when I started playing in bands again. It just will not keep up with a drummer without sounding like its going to die. Real squealy, sorta thin sounding when the volume gets too high, you lose definition, compression gets too crazy. The small transformers and EL84s are just not made for keeping up with a drummer, in my opinion. Might work for your situation, but this was just my experience. I do still wish I had one for jamming and recording at home, though.
     
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    I think this is where the 35 watt version does well for all the home applications you mentioned, as well as for jamming with a drummer. After all, Vox AC30s also have a quartet of EL84s and have been used for decades with loud, great drummers. When I play with my drummer buddy, my masters are only around noon and the amp keeps up fine even when he's blastbeating away. The clean channel starts to break up a bit though, but then I just ask him to play a little softer during a clean section :p
     
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    Thanks for the comments so far guys, I appreciate them. Regarding moving away from 6505 levels of saturation, I'm pretty fine with changing. As far as my preference goes, I'm way more concerned with great cleans than distortion but I know that the mark can do both, plus I have a tubescreamer or Precision OD I could throw over to get some push.

    Cant Believe I've forgotten about Revv! I used to look at SMG and Fluffs vids and think those were such badass amps that I'd never afford, but for the price that I'm seeing them go for, I'd consider getting a mark v:90
     
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    Curious if you're talking about clean or distorted tones (or both) and what cab you were using in the band scenario.
     
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    Same, my 25 in extreme with an EVH 212 cab angled back had no probs keeping up with a drummer without going above 10 o'clock. Small room, though. If I wanted great cleans at volume, I would have bought the 90w :p
     
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    Distortion channel. Didnt use clean stuff in that band. I tried with a couple of cabs...Mesa Thiele and a Randall 412.
     
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    Interesting. I'd expect a 5:25 through a good 4x12 (or even a 2x12) to get loud enough to keep up with a drummer, but I guess it depends on a lot of factors.
     
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    Yeah, I supposed...small room, super loud drummer (probably the loudest drummer I have worked with). I had the amp cranked to 75% volume, and it started squealing way too much to be usable, even with a noise gate.
     
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    Mesa Mark V 25 head is my dream amp, is first on my wish list.
     
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    Weird, I rehearsed for ages with a mesa 20:20 power amp and it was waaaay loud enough.
     
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    Try an Ironball with an Engl can. Can't go wrong.
     
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    I'd try angling the cab up. In a small room, you're going to be right on top of the drummer and you'd be close enough to your cab for it to beam right into your knees or crotch ;)
     
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    Meh, I tried moving all around the room to see if I could get it to stop. Even standing behind the kit with him, it squealed. Regardless, I sold that amp close to 2 years ago, and am running a Mark IV these days.
     
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    >>> bumping this thread

    So I've recently sat down and played with a PRS Archon (it was the 25 watt combo) and I didn't have to crank that badboy up too much at the guitar store I was in before I started to feel a little guilty about the volume, so my hopes for owning a mark v: 25 and being able to jam with it aren't dashed (although I may be heavily considering saving for a 35w now)

    Also, continuing with the prs, what are your guy's thoughts on the Archon? The full sized amp can be found for the price of a mark v 25 on reverb and it had headroom for days on the clean channel. I was pretty impressed, but because of how more recently I've played it versus a mark v, I can't properly compare them in my head.
     

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