NAD: MESA/Boogie Mark V 35w! Owww Yeah!

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  1. Guitarjon

    Guitarjon SS.org Regular

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    I posted here recently about this but I got a new amp! ;)
    It's the MESA/Boogie Mark V 35W head!

    I'm super stoked as the Boogie Mark series have been dream amps of mine for a looong time.
    I bought just for recording in my studio so the lower wattage works fine for me in that regard.
    This thing has plenty of power and headroom thanks to the 4 EL84's.
    Honestly, they don't sound as 'small' as some people make them out to be.

    I haven't spent a huge amount of time with this amp yet and I've mainly focused on the MK IIC+ mode since the IIC+ is obviously legendary and widely used by a few of my favorite bands (Metallica, DT etc.).
    Here is a short video I did with this mode in a rock/metal setting.
    The settings I used can be seen at the beginning of the video:



    I used this head through my Fractal X-Load LB2 loadbox and back into my Axe Fx III, which I use for IR loading.
    Got a great crunchy sound with plenty of mids despite the classic V-shape ;)

    The clean channel is very nice too.
    It has a warm, even and compressed sound while still retaining a lot of headroom and dynamics.
    Not sure how that works lol, but it sounds good.
    Really dig how high gain the crunch channel can get too.

    The MK IV mode has some nice extra saturation and harmonics going on and I imagine I'll be using that mode a lot too in the future.
    Haven't tried the Extreme channel much but it sounded good when I briefly tried it.

    Couple thoughts:
    -The graphic eq is great but quite touchy, I spent quite some time dialing in my first tone and tweaking it.
    -This is a tweakers amp! The controls can be sensitive so it can take a little time to dial it in 'exactly' how you like it.
    -The EL84's are fine! This amp has plenty of low end and I'm running the master at around 10/11 o clock, not bad!

    Great amp!
    Anyone else own one? Any tips for great tones? (aside from running the treble high, mids and bass low and the classic V-shape on the EQ)
     
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  2. TedEH

    TedEH Cromulent

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    Don't be afraid to push the middle slider up. It's sensitive and can get really nasally, but a lot of the amps character lives in that area IMO. Also, IMO the XTREME mode gets the closest to the legit sound/dynamics of the bigger amps - or at least it does the way that I dial them in. It's long been my favorite mode after owning it for a while.
    :yesway:
     
  3. InCasinoOut

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    Hell yeah! The IIC+ is really my favorite setting too, and I also use mine mostly for recording, with a loadbox. You're better at dialing in tones than I am so I really hope you do a big video with each voicing and channel!

    I did this cover with the IIC+ setting as well. Interestingly, my settings are usually pretty close to 12 o-clock on B-M-T and I tweak just a little from there. Ive seen plenty of guys with setting at more extreme ends of the spectrum and it still sounds great too though:
    https://soundcloud.com/incasinoout-1/misery-signals-5-years-instrumental-cover
     
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  4. Guitarjon

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    Can't wait to spend more time with the extreme mode for sure, it doesn't sound as unusable as the name suggests fortunately.

    Yeah my settings are a little extreme as you can see in my video.
    Treble up super high and mids/bass at zero.
     
  5. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Don't be afraid to do that. It's what I did with all my Marks. :lol: Dimed the treble and set the bass super low.
     
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    KnightBrolaire schadenfreude

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    those are pretty common settings for Marks actually. I run my mk3 with treble near max and bass/mids at 1. I don't know if the treble affects gain on the mk5 like it does on the mk4 or mk3 though.
     
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  7. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    I think the EQ effects have been universal since the Mark II. Bass adds flub, treble adds attack and gain, mids are tits on a boar.


    TBH, I still need to try a V one day.
     
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    TheWarAgainstTime "TWAT" for short

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    Great tone in the video!

    I love my Mark V to death :D though I set it up a little different from most people. I use the Mark IV mode, bright on, gain and treble around 1:30, mids just below 3:00, bass just above 9:00, presence and master at 11:00 preset eq knob around 11:00, then master volume as needed. I also boost the front end with a Maxon 808. Most people are anti-boost with Mark amps and set the mid knob about as low as the bass knob, but I've found cranking the mids ads a lot of nice body and juice to chugs without battling with extreme low end.

    I do prefer the "normal" approach of low bass and mids when I use Mark models in my Axe FX II, though. Go figure :lol:
     
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    sounds fantastic.
     
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    where's @Wizard of Ozz when you need him?
    Sometimes when I get tired of how raw and aggressive the mk3 can be, I daydream about a more refined mark sound, like the V or the JP2C. Then I remember that I don't want refined, that's exactly why I got rid of my mk4. I guess I'm the odd man out among mark fans since I love how obnoxious and nasty the mk3 can get.
     
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    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    Settings aren't extreme, the amp just works that way. Pushing the highs to 9-10 is needed to get the extra gain for those 80es metal tones.
     
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    LiveOVErdrive CNC hack

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    One of my favorite things to do is bump the presence up above 12 o'clock (2-4). It really opens things up. Gotta drop the top band on the 5 band down to compensate.
     
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    Hell yeah! Sounds great!
     
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    One of the best amps ever made IMO, its loud enough for any gig and the perfect size for a studio. I wouldn't trade mine for anything. Except maybe a full sized Mark V. I usually keep it on the extreme channel, on the EQ I cut the 80hz, 750 hz, and boost a little of the 2200 hz.
     
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    Man, keep those dialing in tips coming guys! I just moved to a new, smaller apartment, so I now have my V:35 set up next to my computer, running into a load box, instead of having it on my 2x12 before. Pretty nice having it ready to record at all times.
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    People say a mark series is hard to dial in.

    Like... no it's not. :lol:

    Like you can start off with the treble at 9 - 10, bass at 1 - 2, mids at whatever. Do a V-shape with the EQ sliders

    Boom, chug till the cows come home.
     
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    Actually - something that's really fun with the Marks is to intentionally do exactly the opposite of the usual advice and CRANK the bass knob for some thick fuzzy nonsense that is a ton of fun to play with.

    But yeah, JazzHands has the right idea -> Easy instant Metallica mode is just treble up, bass off, middle slider almost all the way down - and at that point it's hard NOT so sound like you're pretending to be an 80s/90s thrash band.
     
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    True! With the treble up so high it does introduce some noise on my setup but I guess it's unavoidable because I have the amp in a loop of my Axe Fx III (with the Loadbox).

    Yeah I tried that too for this song! It did sound very cool but with the presence lower the guitars just 'sit' back a little more in the mix.
    Definitely a great trick if you want a super solid and in your face sound!

    Sweet! Just like my setup, which loadbox are you running?

    With more bass it does sound closer to a Recto, which is kinda cool imho!

    Ok guys, another question:

    I want to do another epic comparison of this amp VS a bunch of modelers, like my Recto one from a few months back.
    I still have to decide which mode but I guess the MK IV mode since that is more common in modeling platforms.
    Now, the actual Mark IV (and MK V) have a bunch of push-pull options that the 35 doesn't have.
    Does anyone know how the 35 is set regarding those options?
    Are some of those push-pull options 'hardwired' in so to speak?
    It would be good to know for the comparison to get as close as possible....
     
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    I've never owned a Recto so it's hard for me to compare....
    I can't remember where I heard this, but supposedly the Recto voice was originally aiming for what a Mark sounded like when you dialed it in a certain way. Is that really true? No idea. Probably not. :lol: I'd be curious to hear from someone who knows better how the two really relate to eachother, if at all.
     
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    You guys need to shut the hell up about Marks. I don't need that kind of influence right now. :lalala:

    I don't need a Mark. I don't need a Mark. I don't need a Mark...:lol:
     

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