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  1. Crash Dandicoot

    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    Put a down payment on this over a month ago, finally showed up! I present the Friedman Butterslax:

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    Tried one that was in stock locally and, well, that was it. Started moving gear like a madman - can't say I don't miss some things, but holy hell is this ever one crushing tone machine. It should come as no surprise that channel 3 is bloody nightmarish - in a good way. Crushing, fully saturated though not enough to cause a lack of note articulation; it's fantastic and everything I wanted it to be. Channel 2 can also get heavy as fuck, roll back the gain though and it's got some classic dirty grit with headroom for days. Channel 1 was my primary concern as I didn't get to demo it extensively before the local one I was messing with prior had been sold. Luckily, I wasn't disappointed. I was fully aware of said channel's crunch capabilities, but I really wanted some crisp, clean tones. It absolutely delivers, though I'll be the first to say trying through different cabs makes a difference - a vintage JCM 800 series and my Uberkab have no issues getting that sparkly sound, while a Mesa 4 x 12 would resist every step of the way. Regardless, I was pleasantly surprised. Also, the FX loop is so ridiculously transparent, like, insanely transparent. Takes pedals of all kinds, no issues.

    Big thing I'm sure people may be wondering is the cost - is it worth it? As a bedroom player way out of his depth with gear lust, I would honestly say no, but for a pro or if you're simply just after that sound and nothing else will do - absolutely. Puts a grin on my face every time I fire it up.
     
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    Congrats, absolutely beautiful. My only experience with Friedman is my BE-OD, so I can only imagine what this sounds like in a room!
     
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    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    It's honestly pretty ridiculous even at bedroom volumes. I took it out to a buddy's place recently where his rig is in a large shop and I could really let her loose - sounded insane; the tone demos really don't do it justice. I wouldn't mind a switchable wattage setting, though!
     
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    Beautiful amp! Many congrats to you! I have the Friedman gas hitting me as well so we shall see where that brings me to.

    Enjoy!
     
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    KnightBrolaire 8 string hoarder

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    so much want.
     
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    Epic, is it everthing you hoped for? Sod whether it's worth it in others eyes, if it got lsot in a hurricane would you get another one?
     
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    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    Everything and more, honestly. The versatility is by far the most impressive aspect - Dave Friedman knows his shit inside out and backwards. To say it hasn't met each and every one of my expectations would be a lie.

    I'm still in the honeymoon phase about it, of course, but as it stands I'd be tracking down another in a heartbeat if a hurricane ever ripped through central Alberta ;)
     
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    Did you ever get a change to compare it to any of his other amps? I'm curious how the butterslax compares to the BE or Cantrell.
     
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    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    I've played the Cantrell, very similar structure in regards to the heavier end of the sound spectrum, though the Butterslax carries a lot more gain on-tap for those who would like said sound pushed even further. I would also wager that the Cantrell has more pronounced mids, though I freely admit I've spent considerable less time with the JJ. Referring to high gain and distorted tones, though, I don't think the Butterslax can't do anything the JJ can.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    That makes sense, from a circuit perspective the two preamps for channel 2 on the Butterslax and the gain channel on the JJ are almost identical. Channel 3 on the Butterslax adds an extra tube gain stage in the same way the HBE mode does on the BE100. The main difference is some extra filtering in the power amp that changes the voicing a bit between the two and the diode clipping in the JBE mode on the JJ that the Butterslax doesn't have.
     
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    How much Canada dollars did that set you back??
     
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    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    That's interesting, I was unaware of the circuitry / power amp filtering difference. I knew they sounded very alike, makes sense.

    It set me back a considerable amount of monopoly money, the conversion from USD is reasonably accurate.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Yeah it's actually really interesting as the circuits in all the Friedman 100w amps (BE/JJ/SS/Slax) are all very similar with minor variations (they use the same mainboard, power transformer, and output transformer IIRC) but there is considerable variation in sound between them. Great demonstration of how minor component tweaks can really change the sound of an amp.
     
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    Crash Dandicoot » Supra-ise!

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    Dave definitely has said tweaking down to a science - as you said with such a minor difference whole tonal ranges / tastes can change. Fascinating stuff, really.
     

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