Minimalist live amp for deathmetal?

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  1. BranchDavidian

    BranchDavidian SS.org Regular

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    Hey guys. Maybe someone can help me out..

    So i play technical death metal. Stuff ranging from broken hope to dying fetus with a little pig destroyer mixed in.

    I would like a head thats a little more travel friendly.

    Currently I have a dual recto, a powerball, a fireball, and a XXX. I have no complaints with them tone wise, but theres so much more than i need on all the amps.

    I use no pedals. I use only the high gain channel on whatever amp im using. Ive never touched a reverb or effects loop in my life.

    I need something a little more minimalist. If i could shave 20lbs off my live rig id be happy.

    Is there a (very) high gain amp that has minimal channels, minimum bells and whistles, and a somewhat smaller form factor?

    Ive seen the hughes and kettner tubemeister 36 but it seems like the high gain channel is a tiny bit lacking (am i wrong?) And i would think a 36watt head wouldnt hold up volume wise like the 120 heads (am i wrong? Its very rare that i get my amp mic'd at any of the local venues I play)

    I have too much stuff to lug around, my car is tiny, and theres no reason to drag something the size of a deizel herbert around to play a show in a dive bar in front of 80 people.

    Please lord someone know of a smaller head with normal amp volume and gain with minimal extras.
     
  2. Jacksonluvr636

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    KSR Ares is 30 pounds.

    If you are not getting Miked I would not do anything under 50w but that is just me.
     
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  3. TedEH

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    Maybe some of the Mesa mini heads? The Mark is a little feature heavy based on your description, but I the mini Recto maybe? I've never tried it though so no idea what it sounds like.
     
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    6505 Mini?
     
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    Throw an Amptweaker TightMetalPro preamp pedal and Seymour Duncan Powerstage 170 on a pedalboard and call it a day.

    Instant deathmetal. Super portable.
     
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    Would be killer. Definitely a good idea.

    There are a lot of options out there for this, the above mentioned would be really good too. I would look at the new Revv G3 or whatever it's called for the gain. That thing sounds nasty.

    Regarding the power. These are all solid state I believe so I would get that SD 170 mentioned or a comparable quilter or something.

    The only one I have had was the 44 Magnum and while it was awesome, it barely kept up with a drummer and there was zero headroom so I would definitely get that 170w mentioned or something similar.
     
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    EVH 5153 50w :metal:
     
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    Victory Kraken? Small footprint, but 50 watts. 2 gain channels. Designed to be tight. Haven't tried one myself though.
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    EVH 5153 15w or 50w
    Peavey 6505MH
    Upcoming PRS MT15.
     
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  10. BranchDavidian

    BranchDavidian SS.org Regular

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    Is a 15w head really going to give me comparible decibels to a 120?
     
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    It depends on what you mean by "comparable decibels". What you lose with low wattage heads isn't so much volume, it's headroom. If you play particularly loudly, don't have a good cab, or can't rely on PA reinforcement, you'd probably be disappointed with a low wattage head. The 36 you mentioned could possibly cut it, but isn't going to have the kind of low end / thump of a bigger amp.

    If the question is "can I play death metal live on a low wattage head", the answer is yes- you can do that. I do it all the time with a Mark V:25.
    If the question is "will a low wattage amp still be able to punch people in the gut and make people's ears bleed while I do so", then no.
     
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    EVH 5150III 50 watt seems like a good choice
     
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    A cheap 50w 112 combo with an HM2 plugged in.
     
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    Diezel D-Moll ?
     
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    Marshall VS8100?
     
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    5153 50 watt head. Sure, it has three channels, but you don't have to use them all. The red channel sounds best to me, no pedals necessary. Perfect for brutal and even tech-death.

    Or--

    Peavey 6505+ 112. I made mine into a head and it is definitely a good 15-20 pounds lighter than my 120 watt 6505 head. It can hang with a drummer no problem, with gobs of low end balls. In fact, there's barely a difference in tone or volume between it and its big brother. Even as a combo it slayed.

    Either of those two would work very well for you. I wouldn't go less than 50 watts.
     
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    Another vote for 5153 50watt here.
     
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    The preamp pedal and Duncan 170 watt power amp seems like lightest most portable and best solution for you especially since you're only after doing one tone very well.
     
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    a 10lb Matrix or Duncan Poweramp. And a Helix LT. Super portable rig, there you go.
     
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