Mackie HD1531 vs Power Amp/Cab setup

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  1. Metalus

    Metalus JP BFR Whore

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    I've been leaning toward saving toward a Mackie HD1531 and I was wondering what the pros and cons are. I've heard people raving about them. What would be the benefits of it vs a Power Amp/Cab setup? Ive also people seen using them with their Axe-Fx's WITHOUT a power conditioner. Is it safe to run an Axe-Fx through the Mackie without a power conditioner?

    Any other advice is highly welcomed :D
     
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    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    Not using a power conditioner is trusting the electric grid. Depends on where you live, really. If you tour, even locally, since you don't know in advance, a power conditioner is pretty mandatory. Think of it as insurance.

    The point of having a FRFR setup is to use the power amp and cab sims of the axe FX to shape the tone and use an as transparent as possible speaker, ie a big studio monitor. Using a power amp and cab means you like the tone of this power amp and that cab give you and use the axe FX without the power amp and cab sims. I went that way simply because I had them before I had the axe and I could achieve the tones I wanted that way without buying anything else.
    There's not a really a "better" way, some bands use FRFR, some others the power amp solution.

    The only absolute is that FRFR will be more versatile, so if you play in a cover band or have a vast array of tones you need, FRFR should be more convenient. If you're one of the "I have one clean, one rythm and one lead tone for all the show" (That's 90% of bands), this isn't relevant. But if you intend to play Jazz, blues and the Br00talz with one setup, it might be a better idea.
     
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    Kali Yuga SS.org Regular

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    Sorry, I have no experience here, but the Mackie HD1531 is 1200 USD brand new, while a good poweramp and cabinet will cost much more than that. It seems like most people use the Fryette 2/90/2, which is nearly 1700 alone, and a high-end cabinet at new price will cost another 1000. Of course, poweramps and cabinets are easily found used, but you would likely still be paying around the same amount that you would on the Mackie HD1531. So, personally, I would probably opt for the full range monitor for the flexibility it will provide... and not to mention it looks cool.

    :D
     
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    The main reason i think you should flip over is for consistency of tone. I had a Vht power amp and Vht cab but i just sold it for a 1531 set up that will be dropped off at my home later today :-D

    Why? Because now i don't have to worry about the club having shitty mics and inconsistent Mic placement.....i have control of all that. Then i load in some redwirez and have a pro studio Mic job for my live show.

    Anyway ill let you know how it works out.
     
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    TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist

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    I prefer tube power amp and cab, which can be had for under $1k if you know what to look for and don't go unreasonable with the volume. The Mackie is insanely heavy, and I prefer the "tube coloration" even with the AFX's power amp sims.
     
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    one day i shall have it too, ONE DAAAAAAAAAY (shakes fist)
     
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    I went the FRFR route for a bit, but eventually decided it was for me. I might give it another shot down line, but I absolutely love the tone I get with my poweramp/cab setup right now. Keep it mind, Cliff from Fractal also still uses his VHT 2/50/2 and Mesa cab for personal use.
     
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    TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist

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    It's also important to note that a lot of the initial amp models were tweaked using a 2:90 :D
     
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    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    I'm with you, but most people already have a power amp and cab when they buy the axe, hence the dilemma. ;)
    If you don't have anything it's different of course.
     
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    bulb SS.org Regular

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    Having used both setups live i have to say that i MUCH prefer the HD 1531, not only is it not limited to one cab/poweramp sound (as you can fully use the axefx's cab and poweramp simulation, but it is more stable (no tubes to replace and has a built in power section) and takes up less space as well.
    It is loud as balls and seems to be less directional than any cab setup i have had as well.
    Above all this is of course the cost, as you could buy two 1531s for what a VHT Poweramp/Orange Cab setup would run you (what i used to use)
    I HIGHLY reccomend it for anyone going direct, and especially for those using live axefx setups!
     
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    Thanks a bunch guys. Is it heavier than your typical cab? Can you attach casters to it? I would hate having to carry it around since im a skinny fucker :lol:
     
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    108 pounds. Definitely heavier than my Vader...but nothing compared to my 140 pound ENGL XXL Pro.
     
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    What about attaching casters is that a possibility?
     
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    why do you prefer those stereo-system above studio monitors?
     
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    TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist

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    The HD1531 would definitely be less directional; 4x12 guitar cabs are laser beams when it comes to dispersion, sadly. I'm just used to that particular sound and feel.
     
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    The biggest thing holding me from getting it is whether or not its worth it. I might spring for power amp/cab setup first to see how it works out and if it doesn't Ill jump to the Mackie
     
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    The only concern I wold have is whether the Mackie monitor would be able to handle being carried around and beaten while on tour. It would seem like a cabinet/poweramp combo is built to withstand those conditions, while a monitor is built to sit in one place for it's entire life.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Yeah because there hasn't been a post from a musician touring the world with the setup in the thread... oh wait :lol:

    Tosin from AAL has also been touring with them for quite some time.
     
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    There's really no need to snotty about it. The only two bands that have been mentioned using them are in a different situation than us average SS.org dork. They haven't been around and doing their thing for that long, so the Mackies have not really proven the rest of time yet.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    I'm curious what you mean by "a different situation". They're both working touring acts that are dragging their gear on and off trailers on a regular basis to play clubs all over the place. The biggest difference is that they're touring nationally and internationally instead of playing a couple shows around town on a regular basis. If anything their gear is getting more wear and tear than most guys on here put their stuff through :2c:

    Those guys aren't big enough to have paid roadies babying their stuff.

    I do agree that they're new models that haven't been out that long. I know there were bugs with the first batch that Tosin had all kinds of problems with initially. Seems that's been fixed though as he's been using them for the entire current tour, as have Periphery.
     

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