Line 6 Helix Native. DAW plugins.

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  1. Metropolis

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    Not at all, what I meant was that there is same kind of annoying quality, which Helix still has. Just a matter of taste maybe.
     
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    oc616 Control Deck Wins

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    The differences I hear just sound like better guitar/pickup quality and tuning choices to me. The base tone isn't worlds different.
     
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    What about my tone comparison?
     
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    It was okay, better than previous raw comparisons seen here. TSEX50 sounded like I was expecting it to sound, all of three were pretty close to each other. Also I have tested Thermionik trial version while ago, and it was good at amp modeling.

    Glenn Fricker is going to test Helix Native... we'll see how it comes. And let the amp-plugin wars begin.
     
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    I agree with your assessment of my tone tests lol. I'll have to do another and try harder to get a better tone instead of just trying to make them sound similar.
    The TSE X50 is cool but it has that mid bump at around 900 hz that I never can quite dial out all the way.
    Curious to hear his thoughts. He probably won't like it I'm guessing unless he uses IRs. What kind of tones do you like? What are some examples of a guitar tone you love?
     
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    Why would you want to dial out that 900hz? Strictly from a mixing perspective, I've had the absolute best luck with TSE X50. Right out of the gate its pretty much mix ready. It doesn't dominate the upper mids and high end and always seems to gel nicely with the bass in a mix while still allowing vocals to shine through. What I find really odd is that Revalver has been absolute junk for me as far as mix ready tone goes... and its made by Peavey!

    Anyways, my initial thoughts on the Native plugin are that the amps are not necessarily "mix ready" because that's not really what the premise of the tool is for. Also, as heard in this thread, the sims are scratchy and thin.

    Would anyone be interested in any other comparisons in a normal mix (drums, bass, guitar) ? Revalver? AmpliTube? TSE? AxeFx? vs. Native?
     
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    Mostly quite modern type of stuff... Devin Townsend, Dream Theater etc. Something in 5150, Dual Rectifier, MKII - V, or heavier sounding Engl's ballpark. Ambient cleans, mid gain crunch with splitted coils, djenty type of tones, even if I'm not the djentiest type of player. Very usual things seen in here. In top of that some death or black metal. But the tones have to be cutting enough, it's hard to describe.
     
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    I personally like the djent dynamic, but I'm less of a fan of the hyper-polished stuff like Born of Osiris or Veil of Maya. I like the hardcore/grindy tones of early Red Seas Fire, Meshuggah and Josh Travis more, nice and loose sounding.
     
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    Me too. I love DTP
     
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    I am digging it lol. I went straight for ir's i already love and its treated me great so far. I use a pc rig now anyways and love L6 so this was a natural progression for me.
     
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    The frequency is too overbearing and it has this 'plastic' sound that doesn't really appeal to me.
     
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    What IRs do you like?
     
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    I have tried all the possible free ones like Catharsis, Guitarhack and God's Cab and those were quite usable. And everything from TSE X50 2.4. Then I bought some Mesa, Engl and Bogner cabs from 3sigma, Rosen Digital, Redwirez and Ownhammer.

    My current favourites for metal are from Ownhammer Oversized Rectifier V5 with Celestion V70 speakers. Exactly this one: https://www.ownhammer.com/store/ind...id=390&zenid=c90c3904a89f38c0eef17b2b29726cc6

    Good thing is that those clips are played with Helix.
     
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    Cool. I have that IR already. What mic/mix are you using?
     
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    I'd say to give the JST Zilla cabs a whirl too. I demo them with Helix here:

    https://soundcloud.com/guitdemoson/helixzilla-amp-model-blends

    You MIIIIIIIIIGHT want to wait a smidge, tho, because Ownhammer is dropping a new package with Zilla, EVH and Emperor cabs - supposedly by the end of the month.
     
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    Usually something from bold, OH1 or OH1F mixes.

    I got JST Conquer All V1 a while ago, and there was not enough options in ir-files for that money. But it's just me and my setup.

    New Ownhammer pack is gonna be awesome, it is supposedly called Heavy Hitters Vol. II.
     
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    TH3 sh*ts all over the Helix for hard rock and metal tones.
     
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    For those of you who have the hardware version, does it sound the exact same?
     

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