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  1. Mwoit

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    If this exists already, please delete this thread.

    Otherwise... let's chat JRPG!

    I've got goals to play:

    - Secret of Mana (again) copp with my future flatmate
    - Secret of Evermore
    - Earthbound

    At the moment I'm playing:

    - Tales of Symphonia HD (PS3)

    And I'll probably pick up Tales of Xillia 2 when it's released in the UK.

    Anyone else a fan?
     
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    Bloody_Inferno Silence is Violence

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    Your goals, do it in this order:

    Secret of Mana
    Earthbound
    Secret of Evermore.
    ...unless you enjoyed Mana so much you want more of it. :lol: then your order is fine.

    My goal... get the latest Tales game and finish the mountain of JRPGs I've procrastinated over the years... Star Ocean The Last Hope being one of them... :(
     
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    I'll start Secret of Evermore by myself since it's one player. Once that's done I can start Earthbound. I'll finish Mana whenever I have time with my flatmate, and that's not exactly a rushed thing since I've finished it loads. :lol: I've got Tales of Symphonia HD and I totally forgot, Dawn Of A New World to complete since I never got round to playing that on the Wii. That's another 30 - 40 hours down the drain it seems!

    I never got round to finishing Star Ocean, but I wasn't really into it. I might get round to it...

    On a sidenote, it's not exactly a JRPG, but since I got my Wii U last month I need to finish Skyward Sword on the Wii before I can get into Wind Waker HD.

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    Not enough time for them all. :(
     
  4. asher

    asher So Did We

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    I need to finish Stick of Truth.


    .... what? It's totally a JRPG, dressed up with South Park clothing and dialogue :fawk:

    At some point I should really play Chrono Trigger.
     
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    Bloody_Inferno Silence is Violence

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    Ain't that the truth. :lol:

    The games I still haven't finished:

    Grandia (the first one... )
    Valkyria Profile 2 (bought the game dirt cheap and did nothing but sit on my collection)
    Odin Sphere (odd considering I finished Muramasa: The Demon Blade)
    Samurai Legend Musashi (almost finished this one then forgot about it after Kingdom Hearts 2 came out)
    Robotrek (Pokemon before Pokemon)
    Every Breath Of Fire game on the SNES (oh man...)
    Rudra No Hiho (bloody hell this was impossible :rofl:)
    Treasure Hunter G (such a great great game... no idea why I stopped it...)
    Lagoon (old SNES game that was too mediocre for me to keep going)
    Bahamut Lagoon :)ugh:)
    Shadowrun :)wallbash:)
    The Ys games on SNES
    Every Star Ocean and Tales game I've ever touched (the first Star Ocean game was probably the very first JRPG game that started me not finishing games...)
    Battle Of Olympus (I guess this counts as an JRPG?)

    ...too many. I guess I had a life to live and music to play. :lol:


    Dude...

    If there's one JRPG you have to play that doesn't say Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy on the box, this is it.

    While on the subject of Chrono Trigger:

    It's great, but not that great per se. It lacks character depth and it feels rather lightweight compared to the Final Fantasy series of it's time. Still, yes it is one of the top 10 JRPGs to play. :yesway:
     
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    asher So Did We

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    Oh, Shadowrun, I have that too. Mannnn I'm bad at playing games :lol:
     
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    I listen to tons of JRPG soundtracks at work (turns out it's pretty good to have in the background) and the Chrono Trigger OST is absolutely killer.
     
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    Agreed with all of the above. And Chrono Trigger, absolutely, one of the greatest RPGs ever made.
     
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    ...and I just realised Shadowrun isn't a JRPG. :lol: Carry on...
     
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    I need suggestions on the best JRPGs for Vita/PSP. Already have Persona 4 and 3, don't even bother saying Final Fantasy/Chrono Trigger lol. I like more light hearted (Such as P4G being more funny than P3's dark atmosphere)
     
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    Yes, you do. I wasn't even born when it came out, but my uncle gave me a port for the DS, and dear lord I loved it. It was such a fun game. It was the only turn-based game I got into, and even at the age of 15, I was emotionally attached to the characters :lol:

    Go buy. Now. :)
     
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    If I listed all the games I haven't played that I owned, I'd be on here for hours looking at my collection trying to remember all the names. I can probably name over 75%, but I am almost done with Xbox 360 completely, then I move on to PS3 (currently working on Tomb Raider Trilogy).

    Now I have a PS4 coming (Destiny pre-order bundle, because white systems rock)... I just want to get back to playing my PS1 collection and replaying a bunch of N64, Sega Saturn, and if I can get an emulator working, some Dreamcast games. I also pre-ordered the collector's of The Order: 1886. I LOVE 3rd person shooters and the setting/premise of this game looks awesome. So many games!!!

    Blinferno, check the quote as I added some stuff next to your game list. As for Chrono Trigger, it really is just a fantastic game. That soundtrack is so awesome I bought a copy from Japan.

    Secret of Evermore is my favorite game of all time. Awesome story, battle, and leveling system. STRATEGY TIP: Take the time to level up certain magic. If you do, it turns the bosses into easy mode, kind of like Secret of Mana. I played 100% melee and the bosses took a while to kill in the later parts of the game, but with magic you will destroy them. There are a lot of hidden spells, but most of them you won't use. The main hidden spell that you will want to get is Fireball.
     
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    ^ My list wasn't everything either... I still haven't finished Ni No Kuni for one. And I'm dragging my feet with Dark Souls 2 (yes, for the record, the Dark Souls series are technically in fact JRPGs), with Lightning Returns. But my TV is playing up, which makes playing games too disorienting.

    A lot those games I mentioned were from the dying days of the SNES era. I even left out a a few of those too like Super Mario RPG (embarrassed to even add this) and Wonder Project J (obscure Enix game with a strong Pinocchio premise), Radical Dreamers (precursor to Chrono Cross: text based RPG that I hated :lol:) and God knows all the PS1/2 games I've neglected. Not enough time...
     
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    Final Fantasy TACTICS. :fawk:










    Ok seriously, I don't have a PSP/Vita so my experience is limited only to reissues. But from what I hear, this ticks all your criteria:

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    The Disgaea series are also filled with light hearted humour so they would be worth checking out as well. :yesway:
     
  15. Mr. Big Noodles

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    I liked Secret of Evermore quite a bit more than Secret of Mana. It's a pretty quick game, and it has Mana's battle system, so everything flows pretty smoothly. It's not the best plot ever. The music is top notch, though. Jeremy Soule did a wonderful job on the soundtrack. Between the music and the graphics, it is an incredibly atmospheric game. Not Japanese, though; Nintendo of America developed the game with minimal input from Japan.

    Terranigma is a good JRPG for the SNES. The only English release was in the European market. Illusion of Gaia is in the same 'lineage' as Terrangima. Both feel to me like a halfway point between Secret of Mana and Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past.
     
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    ... What!? No Ni No Kuni! Why are we even friends?!

    Dark Souls 2 is class. I cheesed it as a mage and was way OP at the end (let's just say I destroyed the last boss) so I plan on getting back on it some time when I've forgotten things.
     
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    :agreed: The Soul series is fantastic. Soul Blazer didn't age as well as it's successors, but it's still a solid game. And Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma are both fantastic (the latter being one of the finest to ever be released on the SNES). Everyone needs to play Terranigma at least once. Thank me later after building your home in France. ;)

    :lol: Of course you would get on my case with that.

    It got piled up with all the other recent games, and delayed even further due to my recent TV problems. Hell, I was gonna start Pandora's Tower but then my sister moved out with the Wii...

    It's pretty easy anyway, got up to the Ice continent rather quickly, so I'll complete it eventually. :D
     
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    How is Ni No Kuna? I didn't even add this to my list since two things I absolutely despise about JRPGs these days are relationship systems and over complicated pet systems. I like much more traditional styles of RPGs. Crafting systems are okay, as long as they are not ridiculous.

    For example, Record of Agarest War... I hate the game (but I started it so I have to get that 1k achievements :mad:), but the crafting system is pretty cool. Simple, yet expansive to get all the items.
     
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    Despite not finishing the game yet (I swear I will :wallbash:), I'm gonna be as honest as I can here, because I have as much criticism as I have praise. I'll try to keep it spoiler free...

    I've played JRPGs my whole life since the NES (Zelda counts somewhat), and playing Secret Of Mana for the first time was, to me, the gateway to what the quintessential JRPGs are all about. I'm saying this because I would know how extremely trope driven JRPGs are. And of course with your track record of RPGs... you would too. :lol:

    Ni No Kuni celebrates on every JRPG archetype, does it very well and it's extremely unapologetic about it. Nothing new here, at all. And that's both a good and bad thing for me.

    It's awesome because it does everything that I've loved in the classic JRPGs I've grown up with:

    Young kid stumbles on an adventure, check.
    Gain token female and odd fellow with tragic past, check.
    Travel through lush landscapes: plains, forests, deserts, volcanoes, ice lands, then later get some aerial travel, check.
    Casinos, colosseums, ghost ships, check.
    Capturing monsters and leveling them up by fighting, feeding and taching new moves, check (if you liked Pokemon)
    ...There's more that I didn't mention... I haven't finished it yet. :ugh:

    That's all good, especially for those of this generation who want a gateway to JRPGs. Ni No Kuni is perfect for that. It's presented very well, the graphics are Studio Ghibli standards, and Joe Hisashi's score is exquisite.

    However for the JRPG junkies, the fact that there is literally NOTHING new going on here will come and hit you sooner or later. The levelling up system for both characters and "familiar" monsters are traditional and conservative. The pet system is pretty much a carbon copy of Pokemon but evoutions are exclusively triggered by items. And that borrows a similar tree system with classes in Seiken Densetsu 3 (Mana 2).

    Everything checked point I said above becomes a sort of "been there done that" chore. It all becomes a little too familiar where you start questioning your judgement against the blinding power of nostalgia, which is something this game champions. The story is predicable as hell and the pacing is pretty meh. You plough through cliche after cliche and by the latter stages, you wonder if the Studio Ghibli name is nothing more than a marketing sugarcoat.

    Really, Ni No Kuni is an amalgamation of a bunch of classic JRPG elements rolled into one. If you can get get over the fact that, yes, it does indulge in it's tropes too much for it's own good, then you'll enjoy a fun light hearted game.

    ...I should finish this eh? :lol: :wallbash:
     
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    Doesn't sound too bad. I didn't play much of Pokemon, but it was simple enough (at the first iterations of it). I personally like the simpler side of things. A lot of games completely turned me off because they strayed too far from the simple/familiar end. I may add it to my list, but I have so many games I may just give it a pass at this point.

    For example, Tactical RGPS (FFT, Tactics Ogre, etc.) were fantastic, but when Disgaea came out and all that combination attacks and massiveness just got to be too much after the first. Then all the TRPGs became this way and now they are too boring/carbon-copy. Don't get me wrong, I like new things, new features, and all that jazz.

    However, when you start straying too far I lose interest because that familiarity of what I fell in love with is gone, or it just becomes too complicated. I deal enough with complicated in my career, I don't want to play a game that portrays itself as traditional/modern, but is just over-bearing.
     

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