Jason Richardson Signature EBMM?

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  1. Sermo Lupi

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    Romantic notions about the industry? Can you point out the bit where I said Petrucci and EBMM were tossing JPs to fans for free, like candy? I didn't say it was charity, I said Sterling viewed selling these instruments to customers as a service to Petrucci's fans. And just because they make a profit doing that doesn't negate the point either.

    Honestly, you sound really entitled, or at the very least jaded...not only do you complain that someone else's sig model should have a variety of features for you to choose from for your own convenience (I mean, forget that it's their guitar, right?), you also feel the need to complain about EBMM making updates to the signature that you're not interested in because you subjectively deem them to be insignificant spec changes. I won't argue with you about them being worthwhile changes in JP's eyes (which I believe them to be), because I know what you're saying, and you'll just come back at me with the comment that Petrucci and EBMM are 'in on it' and are trying to rip people off by releasing 'meaningless' model updates every year. However, let me ask you this: is that actually a more reasonable assumption than simply believing JP just wanted to try out some different specs on his own guitar, and also decided to make it available for sale to fans? Hell, let's say he knew he was going to make some money off of it too. That'd be his primary motivation for changing the specs on his guitar to you, to milk his fans of more money? Why does it have to be some big money-grubbing conspiracy just because they're a business that pursues a profit? I mean, is every business not operating at a loss trying to wring every single penny out of their customers to you? EBMM/JP pleasing their fans and making a profit are not incompatible concepts, they can do both at the same time without becoming a caricature of Ebenezer Scrooge.

    The kicker here is that you're taking the ~9 models available for sale as proof of a cash grab, when in reality it'd be more of a cash grab if EBMM brought out a new model each year and immediately retired them once its successor came out the year after. Even then I'd argue with you about it being a 'cash grab', but at least then it'd seem like they're trying to maximise recurring annual sales via model updates. However, offering all those different models for sale isn't something that they have to do, and in some ways it's honestly detrimental to the success of the JP line. Why? Because everyone is always asking things like 'what's the difference between the JPX and JPXI?', indicating the model line gets more and more confusing with each new addition. Moreover, some features are only available on certain models and not others, so not only would it simplify things to consolidate those features to one model, it'd also allow you to get more variety: want a floyd rose on your JP XII? Not a problem if they just give you a bunch of drop down menus on an order form. Given how much criticism has been directed at EBMM that they DON'T do that, I'd wager they could stand to make a lot more money if they added it as a feature, even if it'd come with an associated tooling and production cost.

    But like I was saying, they're not going to do that because of how Sterling feels about maintaining the integrity of the signature models and their likeness to the artist's preferences. Call that a cash grab if you want, or some sort of naivete on my part about how the industry works, but as far as I'm concerned you haven't done your homework on EBMM and are just talking out of your a$$ about how corporations 'theoretically' exist to suck you dry. :nuts: And I'm done with the OT discussion, given that this is a thread about Jason Richardson, not JP. So probably best to drop it before the thread gets derailed.
     
  2. A-Branger

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    yeah but the logo can be a teaser to slowly start the hype. Winter NAMM is not too far away
     
  3. Lorcan Ward

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    I can't see it being anything wildly different to his JPs, maybe a run with buckeye burl tops.
     
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    Thats a fair point, I did assume you agreed with Sterlings argument here so for that I'm sorry. I also agree that the thread shouldn't be pulled OT any more.

    However you've also made some pretty outlandish assumptions yourself here - and attributed wild ideas to me that either don't make sense or are simply refutable with a basic understanding of how free market capitalism functions,which is supply/demand and capitalising on demand to make a profit. Thats not a conspiracy theory its a current economic reality - nothing more.

    I might personally be cynical about it, but the ultimate irony is that I GAS for Gibson. Anyway thats also enough from me - you're welcome to PM me to continue the debate. To everyone else enjoy the guitar porn when it finally comes :wavey:
     
  5. thinkpad20

    thinkpad20 plays guitar??

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    I do think this discussion got a little out of hand, but that definitely made me laugh
     
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    In the OMNI video Jason said his sig guitar looks like something out of final fantasy....so im guessing its going to be in a shape of a crazy sword gun:shred:
     
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    Any new news on this?
     
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    I mean, he could be designing something of a "metal" guitar with EBMM, at least for their aesthetic. I would still expect it to be very comfortable given he's been playing JP's over a decade. Can't wait, and hope it has an awesome top.
     
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    I think it's just best to wait until the end of the year, around NAMM.
     
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    I'm sure he'd do something unique given the opportunity vs just repeating an existing design. Hoping he does that in the end.
     
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    That forum sucks, they're there only to inflate Sterling's ego. Nothing really useful, all they say is "call customer support!".
     
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    meh Im not really into that forum, not a memeber, but I like to go and check for info about new stuff but surprisingly theres no talk about it. I found more info about new guitars in here than in the forum of the brand of such guitar :lol:

    same even happened when I went to check the PRS forums for any leaked info about the Mark H SE sig, got nothing over there, if not their predictions were way off
     
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    Recently EBMM and Jason got a meeting talking about his signature!
    They posted some pictures, I made a quick edit.

    It looks like a Majesty shape!
    And he got his buckeye burl guitar on the table, so they might combine the specs of those guitars.

    Or I am looking into it way too much :lol:

    What do you guys think?
     

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    Yeah I saw his posts/vid stories on IG too. Looks like he might finally be working on getting his sig model ironed out based on the stuff he shared! He plays the Majesty a lot in his recent vids, so maybe it will be a modified Majesty shape? Hell, I'd have been fine with a JPX that had a buckeye burl top! :lol:

    The Majesty I had for a bit was actually a really great guitar, I wouldn't mind another one of those someday, so if it's similar to that design I think they'll have a winner on their hands. :yesway:
     
  15. Randy

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    Would prefer a snapshot without the really loose MS Paint outline skewing what I'm trying to look at.
     
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    BP confirmed on the MM forums that these are not the sketches for his sig model. Make that what you will ;)
     
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    I got a EBMM JP6 in 2003, I've played many different brands in between then, sold my JP6 for a PRS Cu24.

    Lately I got the itch, and bought a Majesty Artisan -- loved it, but it wasn't for me. The feel of it, and the pickups aren't something I vibed with.
    Played a JP16 and it reminded me of how much fun I used to have playing on the JP models (though I don't like floyds).

    I wanted a 7-string so I got a Schecter KM-7mkII, and slapped some heavier 6th and 7th so I can play Jason's Drop G stuff from his solo album.

    I still want the floating bridge option and the JP neck truly is special.
    Playing everything from Suhr, Tom Anderson, PRS, etc... The feel of EBMM JP models is so comfortable to me, I forgot what I had been missing all these years.

    The JP6 I had in 2003 had nickel frets, but the new SS frets make the neck perform on another level.
    I have big hands, so the guitar disciplined me to focus on proper technique.

    Roasted Maple neck on a burled top JP-style body with an extended scale (at least 26.5") with the JP Tremolo system would be an incredible guitar.

    Excited to see the company recognize the young guitarists that hold Jason Richardson in such high regard, because he has been repping their brand HARD in all his social media.

    Now I wonder what they want to charge for his sig (it can't be more than a JP, or could it?)
     
  18. JohnTanner

    JohnTanner Derpin' on the guitar since 2003

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    I am very excited to see what he comes up with. I trust that he has great taste seeing how he has been loyal to EBMM since 13.
     
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    He confirmed on Facebook that the shape will be new, not one of the JP's sig.
     
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    A new EBMM shape piques my interest for sure. I was planning on getting a .strandberg* once I found the right one, but I may have to wait and see what this guitar will be.
     

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