Is the age of 4x12 dead?

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  1. TonyFlyingSquirrel

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    I'm always conscious of the other instruments too. I found that moving to a 2x12 cab from the 4x12 gave a touch more top end available to our bass player so all the clicks/pops/fret noise could come through & that is part of the performance too. Everyone has their own space in the mix, and guitar players & bass players are notorious for attempting to take up too much space.

    Carve space for each other, make the whole band sound great.
     
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    This thread is predicated on bands not being loud for the sake of their sound.

    Doom bands and some post-X bands don't give a damn if you think 412's are out :lol:

    My band is really loud. A 212 won't work. A 212 with a 412 will.

    Edit: when car shopping, if it can't carry a 412 I'm not buying it.
     
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    We use 2x12's live out of necessity really plus no one wants to move a 4x12. Although my Orange 2x12 is a great cab and sounds quite big, every time we play a show and borrow another bands 4x12s, I just can't help but notice how much better is sounds. Bigger, clearer, sits in the mix better for some reason... Plus we put our 2x12s on their ends when we use them so the speakers are vertical, so the top speaker is about the height of a 4x12. 4x12s just sound better to me.
     
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    2x12 sounds ok, 4x12 sounds amazing, 6x12?

    can I link my 2x12 to my 4x12 and if so, how?
    (Laney IRT2x12/Line 6 stereo vintage 30 4x12 with 2 K100s mixed)
     
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    Maybe about once a year or so someone comes on here and talks about how they're going to revolutionize cabs by getting a 612 built.

    Well, they rarely come back happy. :lol:

    A 412 paired with a 212 can sound really good if mixed properly, but in the room it's not really anything special. You really have to play around with mixing different speakers and configurations to get anything really exceptional. Returns are quick to diminish.
     
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    The tones I get out of my 2x12 are awesome but as they say, there's no replacement for displacement so I opt for the 4x12 almost every time. In a live setting I generally have a 4x12 on each side of the stage, and that fills the room for most venues that I'm playing at.
     
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    hahah really?
    Brilliant.
    my 2x12 does have a "link" input so to try for fun, do i run into my 2x12s input, then out the link into the 4x12 input?
     
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    612's sound great, they're just a bitch to move.
     
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    I used to have a pair of old Peavey 412s that we're stacked vertically so each was the height of a full stack. They were monsters but they were beautiful.

    Theoretically that's a better arrangement for sound dispersion, which is why big pa speakers tend to be "line arrays".

    If I played live I'd use a 112 or a 212. But for noodling around at home you can take my recto 412 when you rip it from my cold, dead fingers.
     
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    No one has yet mentioned 4X12 for recording. Nothing else sounds and hits like a miced 4X12... despite all the plug-ins, and new digital post fx they have now... no sim/ir or later added fx captures the sound and feel of a real miced 4X12.
     
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    I'll never be without at least one 4x12...

    but I will say...the resale value and actual selling of 4x12's is financial punch in the face. Better to just keep them or lend them out to someone for their garage/practice room.
     
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    As much as I've wanted to love digital gear and the all-in-one device, this keeps me from doing so.

    That doesn't make me happy either.

    Since returning to playing more heavily, I've been planning on various purchases to rebuild my gear in a more specific and useful way. Initially, I was placing real cabinets at the very bottom sans the initial amp upgrade. The past couple of weeks though, I've arrived at the point of realizing that for what I want, cabs will be a necessity, and a 4x12 chief amongst them.
     
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    Depends on the kind of music being played and really just whatever you feel is more convenient. 4x12's still sound bigger live, but there are plenty of venues where a 2x12 or even 1x12 would work fine. I'd still rock a 4x12 just for a wider sound, even if it's a pain to haul around.
     
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    I don't believe you can't build a 112 to sound like a 412 micd up.

    But I don't know everything.
     
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    Do it and you'll be a wealthy man.

    A 112 size cabinet that records like a 412 would be killer.
     
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    I suppose if it could be done someone would have done it already.
     
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    If 4x12s are out I'm glad since that lets me be a badass non-conformist while maintaining awesome tone.
     
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    Not for most touring acts.

    Just get a 2x12 that looks like one. Look at how sexy this is:


    [​IMG]
     
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    Well yeah but whats the point? /\
    If you are hauling around a cab the same size as a 4x12, why would you then want it to sound like a 2x12?
    Haha
    Seems totally pointless to me but there you go.
    Like people who take 2 weeks worth of clothes in 4 suitcases just for a weekend get away.
     
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    412s usually have much better dispersion and fuller range.
     

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