Is any reson to not exonomy pick?

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  1. endmysuffering

    endmysuffering I'm serious

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    I find myself economy picking as opposed to alternate picking for most fast things nowadays, is there any reason I should practice alternate picking instead?

    ps. I'm sorry for the typo in the title.
     
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    I think it produces two different sounds, especially up to speed.

    I also think Economy picking only works with certain phrases/amount of notes.
     
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    Though broad sweeping statements are never infallible I will say in the general sense (not all the time though) economy picking doesn't tend to yield as precise an accent. This may or may not be preferable soundwise YMMV. That being said there are examples of economy pickers who don't have this problem, for instance Rick Graham.
     
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    why "instead"? You can practice both and use them when you need it getting more colours in your phrasing.
     
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    /thread :lol:
     
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    In a world where everyone has the time and energy for unlimited practice this advice would be great. But of course we don't live in that world. Personally I think you're better off taking one approach (alternate or economy) and going with that so you have more time to practice other things. Do what comes naturally. When I started playing I economy picked naturally without thinking about it so I just went with that and stayed with it. It just feels natural and intuitive to me. Alternate picking on the other hand feels very awkward and unnatural to me. For me it's not even a question of speed. I'm slow as molasses either way and just use two-handed tapping instead whenever I want to play fast.
     
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    Thanks guys, I'll stick to economy for now and try alt picking more when I'm much faster.
     
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    The thread isn't about "should I learn EVERY technique RIGHT NOW?" it's a question of the value of the one picking style. It's perfectly good advice to say there's value in adding any extra technique to your skillset if you have the time and drive to do it. If you're going to be practicing anyway, and picking style is currently what you're interested in, then by all means, try to learn it. Or don't, if you think it's useless. Whatever. But it's just one more tool, just like you don't "need" sweep picking, or lots of guitarists get by without knowing how to mute properly, etc. :shrug:
     
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    To me, alternate picking developed out of energy economics. Economy picking is a refinement of that, which only came about from some awkward positioning when playing lead from one string to another.

    So, if you are playing rhythm chuggaduh chugguduh chuggaduh chugguduh, then alternate picking is the way to go. If you want to play some leads with oddball string skips and whatnot, economy picking is ultimately going to be a stronger technique.

    Or, maybe you want to play like a pal of mine who just mashes downpicked riffs out like the effort involved is nothing. If you go that route, you might want some Ernie Ball beefy slinkies and a Boss metal zone pedal.
     
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    +1

    And what bostjan said. It's simply the most efficient picking method, and there for the best go-to for fast stuff.
     
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    They tend to have slightly different sounds - alternate picking tends to be a more rhythmic "machine gun" like sound, whereas economy tends to come across a little more slurred.

    Of course, Troy Grady has (successfully, I'd say) argued in his "Cracking the Code" series that even most well-known "alternate pickers" rarely rely on PURE alternate picking. If you're rethinking your approach, that's a great place to start.
     
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    That's what I've found also from listening to alot of archspire.
     
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    all a matter of comfort IMO. But like some people already said, it's a good thing to practice both.
    I did (almost) exclusively economy picking for two years now but recently re-learned flight of the bumblebee. While I'd like to economy pick every parts of the song, few parts are easier (or at least more comfortable for me) to play with the alternated picking technique at fast tempos. While economy picking gives alot of advantages in some cases (3 notes per strings of course), sometimes alternated picking just works better (IMO).
     

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