Ideal Death Metal Tone

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  1. Melr Fjordr

    Melr Fjordr SS.org Regular

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    I've been using a Digitech Death Metal Pedal in front of a Raven RG100H and RG412 Half Stack. I would like to hear diverse opinions regarding an ideal Death Metal tone for rythm guitar (kind of like Jack Owen in Scars of the Crucifix or Homage for Satan)
     
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    MetalZone through a Crate flexwave!!!! Soooooooooooooooooooooo sick!!!!
     
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    Hmm... I dunno about the Metal Zone (I'm not particulary fond of my own Digitech either, I got it because it was cheap, lol). I'm curious about pedals like the Marshall Jackhammer or the Pedal Projects Lionheart, but haven't been able to try them
     
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    If your Raven head has an FX return or line in directly to power amp, then plug in a preamp pedal like:

    Amptweaker Tight Metal
    AMT SS30 Bulava
    AMT Legend 2 Series (ENGL, 5150 or Diezel clone
     
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    The Tight Metal sounds so sick. It's another one I'm curious in trying.
    I'm not sure what do you mean by having an FX return though(I'm an amp noob, as you may have guessed by now. Lol)
     
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    Baelzebeard Grinder of strings

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    There is no "ideal" tone. It's entirely subjective. Everyone has their own ideal.

    But, I think you might be looking for a Mesa voiced tone. If you want to stick with pedals you could try the Wampler Triple Wreck.
     
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    I listened to Homage for Satan quickly just to see what kind of sound you're using as a reference and I immediately thought of Angel of Death, both in terms of the opening riff and the basic tone. Maybe what you're looking for is a very heavily boosted Marshall.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    I gotta say, my favorite all around death metal tone is what Dying Fetus gets out of solid state Ampeg amps. It's crisp, tight, aggressive, saturated and works wonderfully for rhythms and leads. It transfers well to live use as they're one of the clearest sounding, tightest death metal live acts around.

    I love Cannibal Corpse, but thier tone can be so hit or miss. When they hit the mark, as they've done more frequently recently, it's a close second.
     
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    Yes, exactly. It's entirely subjective. I wanted to read about what other people consider their ideal Death Metal tone, for me it's the tone of Homage for Satan by Deicide (and most of The Stench of Redemption).

    I'm loving so far the demos that I've watched about Trenchlord's suggestion
     
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    Lol, yeah I know. They could be considered the same song :lol: But Homage has an awesome Je ne sais quoi about it, I think it is because Ralph Santolla's expertise on the leads surpasses King and Hanneman (I mean no disrespect with this assertion, I am a huge Slayer fan).

    I agree with you a little bit, maybe it's the Marshall sound. But I think there could be other factors in the guitarists' rigs
     
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    Of course! I almost forgot about DF's awesome tone.
    And yes, I too love Cannibal Corpse very much. But I don't like their tone at all, specially in the first albums.
     
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    I own an Ampeg SS70 1x12 combo, it nails a pretty sweet high gain Death Metal tone on its own.
     
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    Buy a 5150/6505/6505+, Boss SD-1, and MXR 10-band EQ and call it a day.

    One of my favorite death metal bands/tones is Decapitated, and even though I know their first few albums were recorded with Ampeg Vh140cs, I can totally get that tone with my 5150-modded 6505+. Tight, raw, and most importantly, pissed-off. Everything you need for death metal.

    Death metal is too diverse to narrow it down to just one tone though. For those occasions, I step on my HM-2.
     
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    For death metal, as mentioned, you can go wrong with the older Ampegs. The ISP Theta and AMT Stonehead are the new 'VH-140C'-type amps. In ten years, everyone will look back and remember them fondly. For me, those three amps are the best death metal tone I've encountered anywhere. I prefer solid state for death metal, but there are also excellent tube candidates. Which leads me to...

    DELIVERANCE! I must also throw out a personal favorite by way of the VHT/Fryette Deliverance. Unbelievably articulate, endlessly amusing, and mood permanently befouled, the Deliverance is among the top tier of high gain tube amplification, and creates a death metal tone that reminds me of Gorguts - Obscura (crisp, clean, nothing to hide behind, surgical, precise).
     
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    I actually would love a tube amp like the 5150 or the 6505. Maybe someday...
     
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    I honestly can't stand people who recommend amplifiers that went out of production DECADES ago. Don't be a moron and waste your money on a VH-140c like I did, chances are it's going to be 1) Broken 2)Cosmetically crap 3)Going to break soon due to shaky parts. Buy a newer amplifier that you know is reliable, Peavey is a great option on the affordable side.
     
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    Your current setup as far as I know costs MORE than a 6505+ 112. Just saying.
     
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    If you can get a Vypyr 30w head, they are great for that old school death tone. Should be able to find one for around $100 used.

    But if you want loud, as in fill a gig with a wall of crushing brutz, find a Crate Shockwave or Tidalwave head. 300w and as scooped or djent as you like. And LOUD.

    Once you go tube though, it's hard to go back to SS, the palm mutes on low tuned riffs are like heroin compared to the caffine of SS.

    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Peavey/VYPYR-30-Guitar-Amp-Head.gc
     
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    I got the Raven halfstack for like 300 bucks. :lol:
     
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    I've never played with tubes. But maybe one day I can get a tube head.
     

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