Ibanez owner confused about woods?

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  1. talon97

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    Just got my new Ibanez RGIM8MH guitar a little bit ago. I took off the neck out of curiosity to see what the wood looked like unfinished. I found this... Ibanez says on their website it is mahogany. Doesn't look like mahogany to me.
     

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    The grain looks like mahogany to me, any other pics?
     
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    It just looks so light. It feels really light and it is really soft. All things that would pount to a spanish cedar.
     

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    I'm not sure what the motivation would be to use spanish cedar over mahogany. It's not going to be a direct replacement, because it's softer, and it's not substantially cheaper. I would think they'd substitute something else, were they going to lie about it.
     
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    they lie terribly about their marketing spiel descriptions so this does not shock me if true

    we all remember the 8 string ibanez own pickup descriptions of "Clarity when tuned low" and "high output blajhh vlahh"

    then turns out they were all Cort 5 string bass pickups................
     
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    Couldn't resist?
     
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    Looks like luan or meranthi, especially if it's light and soft. Philippine's mahogany is the vulgar name, very popular in mid-low end guitars, sometimes in high end ones as well. Not part of Mahogany family, but it's still know as mahogany.
     
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    Mahogany varies in color a fair bit. It can be just as light colored as maple but that doesn't mean it's not for example African mahogany. Ibanez probably uses somethng that falls under mahogany but is a tree domestic to Asia.
     
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    there are so many species of wood under generic name Mahogany, that you can't tell them apart.
    Gibson said once on their site that their bodies are made from genuine mahogany, which means Honduran Mahogany. cheap guitars are made from something else, other hard wood form the big Mahogany family.
     
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    They could very well be lying scientifically...but they aren't really lying by any enforceable standard.

    It could be like spanish cedar or santos. They could technically call that mahogany and as long as its never labeled honduran mahogany its fine.

    Other manufactures do it too. There are almost no epiphones that are made with the true mahogany family.
     
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    To anyone paying attention: This is precisely why every mahogany tonewood prescription tests the rule of trusting fools to advertise their ignorance.

    Site tip: That year's meme pickup goes with the "mahogany" perfectly.
     
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    421-series have super light woods, and they call it mahogany. It has to be some kind of nato-mahogany.
     
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    "Mahogany" has totally different meanings to different builders nowadays. I noticed the same thing ages ago with PRS imports made of "mahogany," that felt like balsa. It's not honduran mahogany.

    Are you dissatisfied with the guitar?
     
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    It's a great playing guitar, dont get me wrong. Sounds pretty good too, even with emgs. I was just expecting to see the dark reddish brown mahogany my $500 schecter has and was a little shocked at what it looked like. I appreciate everyones input. Think I'm gonna try a Carvin next time.
     
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    "Mahogany" has sort of become a catch all lately, lots of woods that aren't actually mahogany but have the properties of mahogany are given that name... It looks like a mahogany-like wood, grain wise. The light color could just be because there's no finish on it. It's probably luan or something similarly cheap, import guitars get that sort of thing a lot.
     
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    Is it in fact wood, as in tree-wood? I need a second opinion.
     
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    "Mahogany" is just a top for a superclass of many hundreds of plants whose woods are varying from white to very dark brown, fine to coarse grain, light to heavy woods. Forget about that Gibson myth that mahogany must be heavy as fonk and has a rich brown colour.

    Bottom line: the guitar you have is made of mahogany. And quite honestly I'm a little irritated by the harsh title of this thread - was that necessary?
     
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    I had a Schecter from the mid-2000's that was about the same. Apparently mahogany, but the wood is very soft and very light (in weight and color). I could indent the bare wood with my fingernails.

    Lauan is probably correct. If you're buying a low or midrange Asian made instrument, it's kind of a crapshoot.

    My Schecter was made at WMI in South Korea fwiw. Though I also have an even older Schecter made in the same facility made of a reddish mahogany that is very heavy, and sounds great.
     

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